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Chandler on 01 November 2012

Not sure if already said, but the DS had already two christmas periods at this point in time. Also, DS had no digital sales.



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KungKras on 01 November 2012

They raised the price of the games, so not surprising.



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sethnintendo on 01 November 2012
spurgeonryan said:
Also you guys say that the DS had two Christmas's. But the 3DS had a huge price cut, and new model, and giant games shoved at us as fast as Nintendo could pump out! They are even. IMO People are buying the system, but not as many games. Unless someone can prove other wise.

Also are we seriously saying that with digital sales the 3DS has sold that many copies of games? What has been digital so far? Two games? DS had an e-shop as well.....if people forgot.

DS didn't have an eshop till DSi and this is comparing the start of DS right? 

 

Full retail 3DS games now on eshop...

http://www.ign.com/wikis/nintendo-3ds/Retail_Games



Herolink7 on 01 November 2012
spurgeonryan said:
Also you guys say that the DS had two Christmas's. But the 3DS had a huge price cut, and new model, and giant games shoved at us as fast as Nintendo could pump out! They are even. IMO People are buying the system, but not as many games. Unless someone can prove other wise.

Also are we seriously saying that with digital sales the 3DS has sold that many copies of games? What has been digital so far? Two games? DS had an e-shop as well.....if people forgot.


The 3DS is still more expensive than the DS was at launch, and there was much more first games on DS at this point in time compared to 3DS, as well as a less healthy economy. And as mentioned previously, software price has rose which is definetly affecting sales.

As for the digital side, the DS did not have an eshop, not in the timeframe given, nor were there ever retail games on the shop.



Pineapple on 01 November 2012
PSwii60 said:
sethnintendo said:
PSwii60 said:
History is against Nintendo. Trend all comes in twos, as you know.

What trend are you talking about?  Home consoles or hand helds?  Because the only trend in hand held market is Nintendomination.

We all know Nintendo's Home/Handheld consoles' improvement of its predecessor doesn't do as well in sales.


The trend isn't there for the Nintendo handhelds. They've all sold more than the previous, except for possibly the GBC.

We don't have numbers to split the GB and GBC on Vgchartz, but on the information in this link: http://www.japantimes.co.jp/text/nb20000615a4.html we can say the following

- The original GB had sold 50 million up to 1996
- Between 1996 and 1999, the GB + GBC sold 30 million
- After that, the GBC sold 40 million

So you're probably looking at the Nintendo handhelds selling somewhere ala

GB: 70 million with 9 years as the main handheld
GBC: 50 million with 3 years  as the main handheld 
GBA: 81 million with 3.5 years as the main handheld
DS: 155 million with 6 years as the main handheld

This is pretty clearly not a decline. It's a constant increase.



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PSwii60 on 01 November 2012
Pineapple said:
PSwii60 said:
sethnintendo said:
PSwii60 said:
History is against Nintendo. Trend all comes in twos, as you know.

What trend are you talking about?  Home consoles or hand helds?  Because the only trend in hand held market is Nintendomination.

We all know Nintendo's Home/Handheld consoles' improvement of its predecessor doesn't do as well in sales.


The trend isn't there for the Nintendo handhelds. They've all sold more than the previous, except for possibly the GBC.

We don't have numbers to split the GB and GBC on Vgchartz, but on the information in this link: http://www.japantimes.co.jp/text/nb20000615a4.html we can say the following

- The original GB had sold 50 million up to 1996
- Between 1996 and 1999, the GB + GBC sold 30 million
- After that, the GBC sold 40 million

So you're probably looking at the Nintendo handhelds selling somewhere ala

GB: 70 million with 9 years as the main handheld
GBC: 50 million with 3 years  as the main handheld 
GBA: 81 million with 3.5 years as the main handheld
DS: 155 million with 6 years as the main handheld

This is pretty clearly not a decline. It's a constant increase.

Ugh. I hate this Rich-Text Editor.

Anyway, GB/GB-Pocket/GB-Light/GB-Color are all in the same generation (with redesigns) with GB-Advance as their successor and GBA-SP as its redesign. GBA did not sell as well as Gameboy did. DS is a new line of handheld console by Nintendo with 3DS as its successor and is obviously an improvement of DS.



sethnintendo on 01 November 2012

The Game Boy Color (ゲームボーイカラー Gēmu Bōi Karā"?) is Nintendo's successor to the Game Boy handheld game console

The resultant product was backward compatible, a first for a handheld system, and leveraged the large library of games and great installed base of the predecessor system.

Generation     Fifth generation


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_Boy_Color

Wikipedia doesn't split the numbers for Game Boy and Game Boy Color though.  Frankly, I always considered it with the Game Boy.  However, it did release about 9 years after the original and wikipedia has Game Boy 4th generation and Game Boy Color 5th.

Generation     Fourth generation

Successor    

Game Boy Pocket (redesign)
Game Boy Light (second redesign)
Game Boy Color (successor)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_Boy



F0X on 01 November 2012
spurgeonryan said:
Also you guys say that the DS had two Christmas's. But the 3DS had a huge price cut, and new model, and giant games shoved at us as fast as Nintendo could pump out! They are even. IMO People are buying the system, but not as many games. Unless someone can prove other wise.

Also are we seriously saying that with digital sales the 3DS has sold that many copies of games? What has been digital so far? Two games? DS had an e-shop as well.....if people forgot.


At that point in its life? Nope.



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Pineapple on 01 November 2012
PSwii60 said:
Pineapple said:
PSwii60 said:
sethnintendo said:
PSwii60 said:
History is against Nintendo. Trend all comes in twos, as you know.

What trend are you talking about?  Home consoles or hand helds?  Because the only trend in hand held market is Nintendomination.

We all know Nintendo's Home/Handheld consoles' improvement of its predecessor doesn't do as well in sales.


The trend isn't there for the Nintendo handhelds. They've all sold more than the previous, except for possibly the GBC.

We don't have numbers to split the GB and GBC on Vgchartz, but on the information in this link: http://www.japantimes.co.jp/text/nb20000615a4.html we can say the following

- The original GB had sold 50 million up to 1996
- Between 1996 and 1999, the GB + GBC sold 30 million
- After that, the GBC sold 40 million

So you're probably looking at the Nintendo handhelds selling somewhere ala

GB: 70 million with 9 years as the main handheld
GBC: 50 million with 3 years  as the main handheld 
GBA: 81 million with 3.5 years as the main handheld
DS: 155 million with 6 years as the main handheld

This is pretty clearly not a decline. It's a constant increase.

Ugh. I hate this Rich-Text Editor.

Anyway, GB/GB-Pocket/GB-Light/GB-Color are all in the same generation (with redesigns) with GB-Advance as their successor and GBA-SP as its redesign. GBA did not sell as well as Gameboy did. DS is a new line of handheld console by Nintendo with 3DS as its successor and is obviously an improvement of DS.

You can have that definition if you like, but it doesn't change the numbers. The overall trend remains the same.

The Gameboy sold faster and faster with each redesign.

The gameboy successor - the GBA -  then sold even faster than that.

The DS then sold even faster that.



Soundwave on 01 November 2012

The two Brain Training games sold like 35 million copies.

Nintendogs sold 20 million copies.

These brought in blue-ocean/casual shoppers which also probably helped NSMB and Mario Kart.

Not rocket science that the bulk of this audience moved on to cell phones. Brain Training/Nintendogs was a bubble, and like all bubbles, it was going to pop, and it has.