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Forums - General - Disney Buys LucasFilm; New Star Wars Movie! ........ What? UPDATE: Lucas' Reign of Terror is OVER!

darkknightkryta on 31 October 2012
Crono141 said:
darkknightkryta said:
Crono141 said:
darkknightkryta said:
Crono141 said:
darkknightkryta said:

You should actually read up on how they made the special editions back in 96.  They don't actually have the 0-negatives anymore, not the ones he made anyways.  They'd have to go hunt down some first gen copy, if any are lying around in good condition.

What are you talking about?  The special editions already did all of the work in restoring the OT.  They just also added in all the crappy "special" material.  You don't think they still have the remastered originals without special edition additions lying on a hard drive somewhere?

They don't.  Lucas actually cut up the 0-negatives and spliced in the special effect shots into the film reel.  It's the reason why the DVD release used the laser disc footage as that was the last time they made a copy from the 0-negatives before someone didn't seal them properly.  They managed to restore most of the negatives, yes, but they cut and replaced part of it with the new special edition footage.  So technically the original technically doesn't exist anymore.

This sounds incredibly unlikely given Lucas's obsession with digital effects even back then.  Did they really make the bonehead decision of destroying the original work when digitizing it would have been the better solution?

It's all here: http://secrethistoryofstarwars.com/savingstarwars.html

Though I might have been wrong about the laser disc.  Good read, they actually had to colour time using a technicolor copy that Lucas had stored in his basement.

According to that, there was a theatrical copy made back in 1985 from the original negatives.  Perhaps a copy of that can be sought out and a restoration performed on it for OT blu rays.  They'd sell like hot cakes.  I'd buy one, and I own no less than 4 copies of the original trilogy. (Original VHS, Special edition VHS, Special edition DVD, Special Edition DVD with included OT laserdisc copies on DVD)

Edit:  Also this: "It would have been far too cost prohibitive to scan and digitally restore the entire film at that time, so only the shots that were going to be enhanced with digital effects ended up in the computer."

So, theoretically, they can use the "remastered" film from the special edition that doesn't contain any special scenes, and splice back in the digitally altered film without the digital alterations.

Like I said they'd have to hunt down a first gen copy that they most likely don't have.  And for the bolded, it's quite possible they have the untouched footage on harddrives somewhere, but who knows what the quality is when they telescined it, or if it still exists (You'd be surprised at what people delete/through away in the film industry). 



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pokymon90 on 01 November 2012

I really hope they make a Star Wars Battlefront game with the Release of the new movie. There will be quite a few people with consoles and I think if Disney plays their cards right can get Star Wars Battlefront 3 to around 8 million is sales combined for Xbox and playstation. This might just be wishful thinking just because I want to play a battlefront game on my xbox.



DanneSandin on 06 November 2012
Crono141 said:
DanneSandin, I agree with your assessment of the prequel trilogy, but disagree with your opinion on Ep 7-9. I knew as far back as 1995 that there were 9 stories planned for Star Wars movies, and that we started on episode 4. The first question that came to my mind on hearing about the prequel trilogy happening was "what about the other 3?"

Star Wars only seems like its a story about Anakin because that's the only parts of the story we've been shown. But the fact is there's another 1/3rd of the story we haven't been exposed to yet.

Yeah, I heard the same rumor around the same time - the mid 90's. I didn't like 'em then, I don't like 'em now!

Making SW ep 7-9 without the emperor and/or Darth Vader is like having G.I. Joe without Cobra Commander, or Transformers without Megatron, or Turtles without Shredder.

I wouldn't mind new SW movies, not at all! Just don't try to follow up the original trilogy!

Darth Vader restored the Balanced in the Force, didn't he? Why go fuck up his accomplishment with having a clone EMperor and diminishing his redemtion!!



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DanneSandin on 06 November 2012
superchunk said:
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Metrium said:
In theory, this sounds awsome, but the more I think about it the more I start thinking that they will completly ruin the Star Wars franchise.

Episode 1-3 sucked, and I don't see how Disney could make them any better. Now a new trilogy, episode 7 means that this will be post-Darth Vader/Empire... No obi-wan, no Annakin, no palpatine and more importantly NO YODA! (unless they make him a ghost or something, wich would be even worst). This means only 2 options, creat a bunch of new character and new threats to the republic, or continue on Luke, Han-Solo and Lela's story and I never cared about any of these characters.


episodes 1-3 did NOT 'suck'. Only a hypersensitive old school SW fan thinks that.

1: was good overall, but had a two very bad characters and bad acting (jarjar and young anakin)
2: was very good overall but suffered from bad acting and older Anakin (aka cry baby) and huge plot holes
3: wasn't great and suffered from bad acting, forced story telling and and old Anakin

Only negative that relates to Episodes 1-3 is how Lucas used them to change a few plots and scenes in Episodes 4-6 totally dropped the ball and made them suck.

Lucas did not ruin your childhood, I promise - he just raped it, like he raped poor Indy later.

There is a lot of story. Its a big universe and it doesn't need the classic characters to be good.

Man, you're really delusional... I fixed some of you're statements

Bad acting... you complain about bad acting in a SW movie? wtf, have you not watched the others? Delusional, I am not the one.

The new trilogy really suffers from bad acting in a way the original trilogy never did! Ep 5&6 didn't have that bad acting. Just saw Empire this weekend, and it's badass! There really isn't much bad acting in there!

And have you watched the movies from Red Letter Media yet? DAMN! If it wasn't for the name "STar Wars" the new trilogy would suck soooo much. It's lioke we're giving it a free pass bacause of the name.



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Soundwave on 06 November 2012

The OT Star Wars had fun banter between the characters and fun relationships between the main players.

The prequels were painfully awful in this regard.

If they can get this aspect right for the new trilogy, there are 60% there to a good Star Wars movie IMO.

The Avengers and the new Star Trek have poorly written plots, but they "worked" mostly because the banter/character relationships are fun.



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Nem on 06 November 2012
DanneSandin said:
Crono141 said:
DanneSandin, I agree with your assessment of the prequel trilogy, but disagree with your opinion on Ep 7-9. I knew as far back as 1995 that there were 9 stories planned for Star Wars movies, and that we started on episode 4. The first question that came to my mind on hearing about the prequel trilogy happening was "what about the other 3?"

Star Wars only seems like its a story about Anakin because that's the only parts of the story we've been shown. But the fact is there's another 1/3rd of the story we haven't been exposed to yet.

Yeah, I heard the same rumor around the same time - the mid 90's. I didn't like 'em then, I don't like 'em now!

Making SW ep 7-9 without the emperor and/or Darth Vader is like having G.I. Joe without Cobra Commander, or Transformers without Megatron, or Turtles without Shredder.

I wouldn't mind new SW movies, not at all! Just don't try to follow up the original trilogy!

Darth Vader restored the Balanced in the Force, didn't he? Why go fuck up his accomplishment with having a clone EMperor and diminishing his redemtion!!


Dude, you dont know much about Star Wars do you? There are way scarier villains in Star Wars than The emperor Palpatine and Darth Vader. Palpatine is actually quite weak for an emperor, but he was smart.



DanneSandin on 07 November 2012
Nem said:
DanneSandin said:
Crono141 said:
DanneSandin, I agree with your assessment of the prequel trilogy, but disagree with your opinion on Ep 7-9. I knew as far back as 1995 that there were 9 stories planned for Star Wars movies, and that we started on episode 4. The first question that came to my mind on hearing about the prequel trilogy happening was "what about the other 3?"

Star Wars only seems like its a story about Anakin because that's the only parts of the story we've been shown. But the fact is there's another 1/3rd of the story we haven't been exposed to yet.

Yeah, I heard the same rumor around the same time - the mid 90's. I didn't like 'em then, I don't like 'em now!

Making SW ep 7-9 without the emperor and/or Darth Vader is like having G.I. Joe without Cobra Commander, or Transformers without Megatron, or Turtles without Shredder.

I wouldn't mind new SW movies, not at all! Just don't try to follow up the original trilogy!

Darth Vader restored the Balanced in the Force, didn't he? Why go fuck up his accomplishment with having a clone EMperor and diminishing his redemtion!!


Dude, you dont know much about Star Wars do you? There are way scarier villains in Star Wars than The emperor Palpatine and Darth Vader. Palpatine is actually quite weak for an emperor, but he was smart.

I've been reading SOME on the SW wiki, but haven't played any games or read any novels. All I know comes from the movies, which is the most important source we have.

I know that the birth of Vader and his actions to restore the balance to the force had been prophecieced many thousands of years ago, and I also know that Palpatine is THE most powerful Sith EVER in regards of most control of the galaxy. No one before him have had such an empire. He IS the most successful.



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zarx on 07 November 2012
Nem said:


Dude, you dont know much about Star Wars do you? There are way scarier villains in Star Wars than The emperor Palpatine and Darth Vader. Palpatine is actually quite weak for an emperor, but he was smart.


Yea but the feats in the expanded universe go to superman prime levels of OP ridiculousness. Back to basics is what they need not fucking destroying entire fleets by causing the stars in a binary star system to go supernova with the force.



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DanneSandin on 07 November 2012
zarx said:
Nem said:


Dude, you dont know much about Star Wars do you? There are way scarier villains in Star Wars than The emperor Palpatine and Darth Vader. Palpatine is actually quite weak for an emperor, but he was smart.


Yea but the feats in the expanded universe go to superman prime levels of OP ridiculousness. Back to basics is what they need not fucking destroying entire fleets by causing the stars in a binary star system to go supernova with the force.

Word!



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Crono141 on 07 November 2012

Yeah, the books went all DBZ with their plots. Each had to one up the previous as far as power level and threat to the galaxy.



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