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JinxRake said:
ZaneWane said:
if xbox did not have bad piracy the attach rate would be higher

And you base this.....on what? The PS3 had low piracy and it's got a low attach rate as you clearly saw. We could argue that if the PS3 would be as easy to pirate for as the 360, it would have a higher attach rate based on the same Bullshitonium that was used for your statement.

Far as I'm concerned. numbers don't much mean anything this gen.

Who won? Who cares!?

Sony is still in the game with a brand that's strong enough for its breeches and has managed not to alienate a great part of its core target demographic. It actually managed to recover from the PR nightmare that was last year's hack, smelling like roses if nothing else. Doom and gloom was presumed for the brand, but the whole fiasco barely made a dent.

Microsoft have done well for themselves but, as Sony have shown, there is no formula that can guarantee future success. Don't forget that Microsoft have not done the best of business in terms of marketing and have had problems for themselves, raging from the RRoD problem in the past, to current events and news of account hacking NOT being treated seriously.

Nintendo...never cared much, never will. Can't say anything on them.

 

I think there are many things to discuss here, but I don't believe you can decide anymore who "WON" this generation.  The Wii sold in droves but the casual market is fast moving on; the 360 has been a runaway success, but there's good merit to the question "How long can Forza, Halo and Gears of War keep going until people actually get sick of them?"; the PS3 has had a more modest success, but is continuing to sell well on a constant basis, still well placed on the European and Asian markets and, quite frankly, coming back from the very brink of collapse after its disastruous launch.

Who won?
Who cares?

only 2010 number so expect overall to be much bigger http://paulgalenetwork.com/home/2010/12/29/platform-breakdown-of-the-most-pirated-games-of-2010/



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ZaneWane said:
JinxRake said:
ZaneWane said:
if xbox did not have bad piracy the attach rate would be higher
< Just read the original post >

only 2010 number so expect overall to be much bigger http://paulgalenetwork.com/home/2010/12/29/platform-breakdown-of-the-most-pirated-games-of-2010/


Numbers are fine and dandy, but they do not represent what WOULD happen if piracy wouldn't have been there. Same as on every other console. It's the oldest discussion on piracy and it's still without a clear winner on that opinion. To discuss what "would" have been if something "would have not been" is on par with palm reading.
 



No. The winner is PS3 as is the one that sold most systems at a price of five hundred ninty-nine us dollars.



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My top 5 or so Wii games satisfied me more than my entire 360 library.



ZaneWane said:
spurgeonryan said:
If Nintendo did not have bad piracy..... I think xenoblade was pirated a million times by the time it came to the States.

good point



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I find it hard to believe that the DS is only at 5.



The REAL measure of success is the average number of consoles sold per year during the life of the console.

Someone whip those numbers up for me quick.



jonnybmk said:
The REAL measure of success is the average number of consoles sold per year during the life of the console.

Someone whip those numbers up for me quick.



360: 10M

PS3: 11.3M

Wii: 16.2M

DS: 19.1M

PSP: 10.7M

360 loses. DS is a beast.



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RolStoppable said:
Panama said:
I find it hard to believe that the DS is only at 5.

Software shipments have reached 917m as of September 30, 2012. Pretty much all games that have been shipped will be sold eventually, so the tie ratio is going to be around 6.0 in the end.

The numbers in the OP are taken from VGC and software tracking in Europe/Others has always been difficult. Most of the discrepancy comes from there, but with no way of knowing which games are undertracked by how much, VGC isn't going to adjust their figures.

Tie ratios for handhelds have historically been considerably lower than for home consoles (between 3 and 4 games), so the DS easily set a new best mark.

Will add a link to Nintendo data shortly.

EDIT: Here it is.


Thanks for that.



Of all the consoles this gen, the Xbox 360 appeals to me the least. So in my eyes it's the least successful. So regardless of the fact that both Nintendo and Sony are not as financially stable as Microsoft, they were able to continually do what it has done with the Wii and PS3 by continually catering to their fans and market base with games. So really, all consoles have been successful. It just depends what you want out of it as a consumer.