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sales2099 on 29 October 2012
007BondAgent said:
Nsanity said:
007BondAgent said:
zero129 said:
007BondAgent said:
the 360 doesn't have a 70m active install base.. ohh dear god, i swear when someone is hyped about a game, they lose all sense of realism.

what console does have a 70 mill active base all at the one time?


Wii would be the closest, but the 360 doesn't have an active 70m install base, so what he said is total m00t, i think the number he should have said is around 46-52m

Plus halo outselling black ops 2 in north america? that's... i'm just speachless that anyone could actually think that.

Where did you pull the 46 to 52 million out from?


Just a guess, remember you have to consider rrod, and 360 owners that switched to ps3 owners, so i believe the number would be close to that.

So based on software sales, also the very big fact that 360 pirated games are also an indicator of actual userbase, PS3 must have a lower userbase then 360.



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VGKing on 29 October 2012
Barozi said:
VGKing said:
Barozi said:

BenVTrigger confirmed a month ago that Halo 4 pre-orders already broke the million mark at Gamestop.

We had Halo 4 at 700k at that point. He further added that Gamestop accounts for approx. 80% of all pre-orders in the US. Therefore the pre-order numbers should've been at ~1.2m at that point. 7 weeks from launch.

Now our Halo Reach numbers might be quite wrong as well, though they had been 630k with 7 weeks to go.


I don't see how I'm supposed to belive this random forum user.....sure he seems like a nice guy from his comments but that doesn't mean he can be trusted. His comments are something to consider, not fact.

it's not a random user, it's a long time user who works at Gamestop and knows their numbers.

If that's not enough for you he said the 360 versions of Black Ops 2 and Asassin's Creed III already reached the million BEFORE this and this source showed up.

We have Black Ops 2 lower than MW3, yet this has proven to be wrong. (by BenVTrigger and later by the Gamestop president)
We had Revelations at ~500k for the 360 version and again the Gamespot president says that Assassins Creed 3 has 100% higher pre-orders than the last game. Which should mean 1m for the 360 version.

Doesn't sound like a coincidence, especially since no one else expected that Assassin's Creed III was undertracked.

-It's a random user. Until he uses his real name then I can't fully trust everything he says. How does he have access to these numbers anyway? What position does he hold in the company?

-Wait, he says the 360 version of AC3 ALONE reached 1mil? That's....odd. Were those his exact words? If this BenVtrigger is to be trusted, that would mean that VgChartz Pre-order charts are completely useless. I know VgChartz data is just estimated but...this is just too much.

Should I trust someone hiding behind a forum name or VgChartz, a website that has proven it is at least semi-accurate...hmmm



VGKing on 29 October 2012
sales2099 said:
VGKing said:
Proclus said:
Halo 4 will obviously be huge.

10-12M sales lifetime seem likely.

Keep dreaming. Halo Reach hasn't even reached 10mil.

Halo 4 is tracking BELOW Reach in pre-orders....common sense tells me that Halo 4 will be lucky to reach 9million lifetime.(since Xbox 720 is coming holiday '13)

Are you Pyro2000x from youtube?


No. This user doesn't even exist. I checked.

http://www.youtube.com/Pyro2000x



sales2099 on 29 October 2012
VGKing said:
Barozi said:
VGKing said:
Barozi said:

BenVTrigger confirmed a month ago that Halo 4 pre-orders already broke the million mark at Gamestop.

We had Halo 4 at 700k at that point. He further added that Gamestop accounts for approx. 80% of all pre-orders in the US. Therefore the pre-order numbers should've been at ~1.2m at that point. 7 weeks from launch.

Now our Halo Reach numbers might be quite wrong as well, though they had been 630k with 7 weeks to go.


I don't see how I'm supposed to belive this random forum user.....sure he seems like a nice guy from his comments but that doesn't mean he can be trusted. His comments are something to consider, not fact.

it's not a random user, it's a long time user who works at Gamestop and knows their numbers.

If that's not enough for you he said the 360 versions of Black Ops 2 and Asassin's Creed III already reached the million BEFORE this and this source showed up.

We have Black Ops 2 lower than MW3, yet this has proven to be wrong. (by BenVTrigger and later by the Gamestop president)
We had Revelations at ~500k for the 360 version and again the Gamespot president says that Assassins Creed 3 has 100% higher pre-orders than the last game. Which should mean 1m for the 360 version.

Doesn't sound like a coincidence, especially since no one else expected that Assassin's Creed III was undertracked.

-It's a random user. Until he uses his real name then I can't fully trust everything he says. How does he have access to these numbers anyway? What position does he hold in the company?

-Wait, he says the 360 version of AC3 ALONE reached 1mil? That's....odd. Were those his exact words? If this BenVtrigger is to be trusted, that would mean that VgChartz Pre-order charts are completely useless. I know VgChartz data is just estimated but...this is just too much.

Should I trust someone hiding behind a forum name or VgChartz, a website that has proven it is at least semi-accurate...hmmm

Im all for using vgchartz to support things, but there is a line between using parts to support your argument and blindly following parts that have strong evidence that points to the contrary. Many games, in your case PS3 games, are undertracked on vgchartz. They should be higher but Im sure youd just take the number given to you and swear by it? Hope you see the point I am trying to make.

But going back on the real topic, Halo 4 holding top spot at amazon, what is your real purpose in implying that Halo 4 preorders are below Halo 4? Doesn't change the thread title now does it?

It seems to me, given your allegiance is to Sony, that by inferring that Halo 4 preorders are lower then Reach, that the series is in decline. This revelation would give someone of your persuasion some pleasure im sure. But let me point out these are preorder numbers that no PS3 exclusive can match, so im sorry to have to kick you off the anti Halo wagon.



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sales2099 on 29 October 2012
VGKing said:
sales2099 said:
VGKing said:
Proclus said:
Halo 4 will obviously be huge.

10-12M sales lifetime seem likely.

Keep dreaming. Halo Reach hasn't even reached 10mil.

Halo 4 is tracking BELOW Reach in pre-orders....common sense tells me that Halo 4 will be lucky to reach 9million lifetime.(since Xbox 720 is coming holiday '13)

Are you Pyro2000x from youtube?


No. This user doesn't even exist. I checked.

http://www.youtube.com/Pyro2000x

Grammer might have been off but the name should have wrung a bell if you were. Could be lying but cant prove it anyway. nm I asked.



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Argh_College on 29 October 2012

Even With AC3 coming out tomorrow Halo 4 stills on TOP.

http://www.amazon.com/best-sellers-video-games/zgbs/videogames



ZaneWane on 31 October 2012

halo is number 11 on amazon best sellers of 2012 in video games



Argh_College on 04 November 2012

Stills no1, not even Black Ops is able to outsell Halo 4 on Amazon.



ZaneWane on 04 November 2012

halo is number 7 on amazon best sellers of 2012 in video games



Argh_College on 04 November 2012
ZaneWane said:
halo is number 7 on amazon best sellers of 2012 in video games

Soon number 1.