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runqvist on 26 October 2012
Jay520 said:
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kitler53 said:
human nature requires motivation to take interest in an action.

in video games, story is often times the motivator. you could be playing for points or k/d ration or whatever but most games use story.


I'd say its actually the opposite for most games. Or at least the most successful games. For me, motivation isn't k/d ratio, it's just having fun with the gameplay. When I play a game, I rarely think abot the plot behind it.


So what are these most successful games which don't have points/achievements/story?


Most Nintendo games go gameplay first over story/points. And even many of the most successful HD games are too.

So you prefer pointing vaguely to something which only you seem to know, instead of giving names to the games.



Pretty much any Nintendo game; Wii sports, Mario Kart, Smash Bros, 2D Mario, 3D Mario. And most HD games, especially online games; Call of Duty, Grand Theft Auto, Battlefield, Skyrim, FIFA, all fighting games, all racing games, etc. These all use fun gameplay over points/achievements/kd-ratio as the main motivations to play the game.


In Wii sports, you compete for the points. Mario kart you compete for the scoreboard, if there would not be a scoreboard, online games would not be popular at all. Don't know smash bros or mario games at all, so no comment on that.

You really think that people don't play online games to beat eachother? That shows on the scoreboard! GTA and Skyrim, they have stories which give motivation to play the game.

Sports and racing games go with the scoreboard/achievements category.

 

You might be happy playing a funny game for nothing ie. saving the princess from a turtle over and over, but you are just one of the few. I certainly could not see myself driving around on mario kart without timekeeping or leaderboard.



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Jay520 on 26 October 2012
runqvist said:


In Wii sports, you compete for the points. Mario kart you compete for the scoreboard, if there would not be a scoreboard, online games would not be popular at all. Don't know smash bros or mario games at all, so no comment on that.

You really think that people don't play online games to beat eachother? That shows on the scoreboard! GTA and Skyrim, they have stories which give motivation to play the game.

Sports and racing games go with the scoreboard/achievements category.

You might be happy playing a funny game for nothing ie. saving the princess from a turtle over and over, but you are just one of the few. I certainly could not see myself driving around on mario kart without timekeeping or leaderboard.

I never said those games didn't have points/story nor did I say points/story weren't motivations at all. I said fun gameplay is the main motivation to play those games.



runqvist on 26 October 2012
Jay520 said:
runqvist said:


In Wii sports, you compete for the points. Mario kart you compete for the scoreboard, if there would not be a scoreboard, online games would not be popular at all. Don't know smash bros or mario games at all, so no comment on that.

You really think that people don't play online games to beat eachother? That shows on the scoreboard! GTA and Skyrim, they have stories which give motivation to play the game.

Sports and racing games go with the scoreboard/achievements category.

You might be happy playing a funny game for nothing ie. saving the princess from a turtle over and over, but you are just one of the few. I certainly could not see myself driving around on mario kart without timekeeping or leaderboard.

I never said those games didn't have points/story nor did I say points/story weren't motivations at all. I said fun gameplay is the main motivation to play those games.

So you would drive around in mario kart without time keeping/leaderboard? I guess that ends this argument.



Jay520 on 26 October 2012
runqvist said:

So you would drive around in mario kart without time keeping/leaderboard? I guess that ends this argument.

What? No, I never implied that. Just because I said fun gameplay was more important doesn't mean points are meaningless. Points are needed to measure a person's performance while playing the game. However, that still doesn't negate the fact that fun gameplay is the bigger motivation.



Jaywood2010 on 26 October 2012
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JayWood2010 said:
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JayWood2010 said:
If you are going to ask this question then explain to everybody how you can continue God of War while making it relevant to the series


That's for the developers to decide. There's a reason I'm not a story writer; my creativity sucks and any story I imagine will suck as well. Same goes for any game series.


Well what would you like to know about Kratos that you already don't know? I'm going to use Mass Effect as an example.  It is pretty popular and they've already announced a 4th installment.  They don't need to use Shephard because the universe is huge and a lot of story can be told in that universe.  God of War on the other hand is just about some angry dude who wants to kill the gods.  He didn't have the chains until the first God of War game so a prequel to God of War would have to take place during the war that he fought to get those blades.  Before then he is just a mortal without blades.  There isn't anythng left to tell of Kratos.  If they make a sequel, what would it be about, unless somehow Zues and some of the other gods survived.  it would be like making a sequel to Gears of War 3.  I love gears and they left things unanswered but if they made a 4th it would be kind of hard to justify it because they've already killed the locust.  They are able to make prequels because there is a 14 year span from E-Day to gears of war 1 but a sequel wouldnt make sense (Although Judgement looks like complete garbage).  If you want a different mythology and different character they should just change the name and keep the same gameplay element.  They can always do a reboot years down the road as it is ery popular and it is fun.


I don't even care about GoW's story so you're asking the wrong person. Also, there is a new game in development so you don't have to wait long to see if the story makes sense or doesn't make sense. I think Kratos is going to have a time-traveling ability, but we'll have to wait and see how it works out.


Well a lot of people do care about story, me being one of them.  A time traveling ability lol




       

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Iwannaplaythegame on 28 October 2012

Games without storyline are pointless