So instead of just browsing the web on my tablet, I should: turn on my HDTV, turn on the 360, connect things together, then type on my phone, what the fuckdie FUCK?! I'd also say the media feature is cool if I couldn't just use a 360 controller for it, but sure, it's a nice bonus if you have a tablet for it although totally not required, sigh.

Just use your Surface! Why did you buy a Surface if it's not for the convience and portability? If it's just for the novelty then it's just beyond reason, tablets and smart phones are for "on the move" and "low power consumption," not so you turn on multiple other things to browse the web and watch TVs with when you already have your 360 controller and Kinect. I really hope you didn't buy the Surface for the wrong reasons Selnor, because if you want a stationary web browsing experience that's actually good on a monitor or HDTV, you'd use Google Chrome, not something like IE on the 360 for heaven's sake.

Eh, it could be kind of useful for streaming things from websites not supported on the X-Box.  Aside from that, I don't see much use for this.  I like how the video showed no videogames or anything.

I'd really hope the new IE for 360 is not so bad that it can't run them natively

Web Browsing is becoming quite an easy standard now HTML5 is taking over. Sites like VGC still stuck with lots of fiddly code struggle on Chrome. Fox and IE. But something Im glad at is IE and Windows 8 is optimized for HTML5. So by this time next year as most sites including Youtube shimmy over from Flash fully ( As Adobe no longer supports or updates flash ) IE is in a great position. 

I bought a Surface for 

1. It does actual computing tasks unlike Ipad or Nexus 7.

2. It talks to my Windows Pone and Xbox for ALL my media needs.

3. I dont want a desktop experience anymore, I dont even make use of my desktop version of Windows 8 Pro. Only use the Metro side.

4. No way would I ever hook up a PC or Laptop to my 42 " HDTV to use Chrome or Firefox when IE on 360 does exactly what I want. Buy goods, check email and VGChartz. etc.

I dont care for owning and fiddling with different OS, different wires, different browsers etc. 

Smartglass is fantastic not just from a browser point of view. I just signed a 1 year Xbox Music pass and have 8000 Microsoft points so I can buy ( purchase ) Tv series and HD movies via Xbox video. All can be used across all 3 devices I'll own in less tan 1 month for the 1 time cost. 

Genius. No fuss it just works.

Of course I bought Surface for the wrong reasons. I should have got a Nexus 7 or Ipad where I cant do everyday PC tasks.

Tried it and works pretty good. Even IE on Xbox isn't too bad... Now Xbox needs multitasking.

PS. Selnor, you're one of a kind...lol

lulz,

OT - how much of this is tied to xbl gold?  i wouldn't mind plugging in my xbox to try it out but i don't want to take the effort if i end up not able to access it due to being a silver member.

1) Surface RT does nothing that can't be done in Nexus7/iPad/other tablets, but they have TONS of more apps for far more functionality. Based on WP, I don't know if RT will ever catch them.

2) smartglass will be coming to other tablets too...

3) me too actaully. I'll probably get the samsung chromebook for $250 to do all that and more... better than Surface RT and 1/2 the price.

4) Makes sense, except its IE. "IE is the best evar" ~ said noone ever. Android + TV which can be done so many different ways right now gives you Chrome which is far better.

I know that was off topic, but I really can't see why anyone would be buying Surface RT. Pro has many valid uses as its full Windows8 and extremely portable. But for RT standards... Samsung Chromebook, Nexus7 (or upcoming 10), iPad, Samsung Note 10.1 are all better choices for either a lot less money or relatively the same.

As for smartglass, for media use and interaction... its awesome. I don't think it will go anywhere with typical console gaming though. It really doesn't compare well with Wii U's gamepad. But its definitely something I like in a future media/entertainment box on my TV.

You two are the exact same in a manner that you're ideal case customers for the companies and ecosystems you're championingon these forums. One is more than happy to drink the Microsoft coolade no matter what while other is championing google blindly. 

Android has had a tablet OS since 2011 and they have what, 25000 table optimized apps? Surface will have more in a month... 

True, I do think Android is the bees knees and opposite for him.

But, http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=149132 and Google has just this last year finalized a true tablet experience that builds off of the phone experience with Android 4+ (starting with Ice Cream Sandwich). Now that that is complete, they have begun to push more SDKs and help for devs to get their apps enhanced with specialised code for tablets.

I don't think Surface will be there quicker than Android.

This is OT arguement though, so lets continue in thread linked, if needed.