I wasn't talking about Romney I was talking about the guy you quoted. He didn't claim that there weren't civilized cities in the area other than in Europe
Who won the last debate? | |||
| President Barack Obama | 259 | 61.96% | |
| Governor MItt Romney | 115 | 27.51% | |
| Nobody/tie | 38 | 9.09% | |
| Total: | 412 | ||
I wasn't talking about Romney I was talking about the guy you quoted. He didn't claim that there weren't civilized cities in the area other than in Europe
| Max King of the Wild said: I wasn't talking about Romney I was talking about the guy you quoted. He didn't claim that there weren't civilized cities in the area other than in Europe |
If he wants to refute my interpretation of his comments than let him do so. You can neither say better than I his true intentions. He clearly calls countries around the Caspian all uncivilized as that is the opposote of not being civilized.

chocoloco said:
If he wants to refute my interpretation of his comments than let him do so. You can neither say better than I his true intentions. He clearly calls countries around the Caspian all uncivilized as that is the opposote of not being civilized. |
Quite the misleading map. Especially since the Caspian Sea doesn't exactly lead anywhere. And if Iran wanted to attack somewhere to make the most impact, like say a modern civilized country (most likely somewhere in EU), they would have to travel all the way around Africa to get there by boat. Now if they could cut through Syria and make it to the Mediterranean, why EU isn't that far away. Or hell, they could just cut through Syria and bomb Israel straight out. Of course, if we have some sort of sway in Syria, we may just be able to prevent either of those. But I guess Mitt's just dumb to suggest such a thing.
Can you point to the section of his quote where he calls countries uncivilized?
Great article on Obama's ground game and how no matter what polls say early voting will probably win Obama this election.
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/10/obamas-edge-the-ground-game-that-could-put-him-over-the-top/264031/


| chocoloco said: Great article on Obama's ground game and how no matter what polls say early voting will probably win Obama this election.
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No offense but...
it's the Atlantic... they're going to try and spin things Obama's way, unless they're talking about how Obama is too conservative.
They say a good ground game can move things by 2% points... based on... really nothing, and despite the fact that the results were actually right on compaired with polling. This is the kind of thing that should show up in polling anyway.
Democrats ALWAYS have a large early voter advantage. That's just how natural voting goes.
Democrats tend to vote early (and often) then Republicans tend to mostly vote in the morning, then in the evening, more Democrats vote.
Also, the problem with targeting "undecided" voters is well... people kinda hate politicians now. Being invasive on their personal space isn't what i'd really call a good idea.
It's like how the negative political "zingers" have all seemed to greatly turn off voters at this point. Undecided people are kind of sick of games.

Kasz216 said:
it's the Atlantic... they're going to try and spin things Obama's way, unless they're talking about how Obama is too conservative.
They say a good ground game can move things by 2% points... based on... really nothing, and despite the fact that the results were actually right on compaired with polling. This is the kind of thing that should show up in polling anyway.
Democrats ALWAYS have a large early voter advantage. That's just how natural voting goes.
Democrats tend to vote early (and often) then Republicans tend to mostly vote in the morning, then in the evening, more Democrats vote.
Also, the problem with targeting "undecided" voters is well... people kinda hate politicians now. Being invasive on their personal space isn't what i'd really call a good idea. It's like how the negative political "zingers" have all seemed to greatly turn off voters at this point. Undecided people are kind of sick of games. |
Based on your resonse I doubt you read the article. I also agree with Spaceguy that you bleed red out your pores and try to pretend you are not Rebublican. Any source you do not like you try to discredit it when it actually has a lot of great insight, and becausese of that I put little value in you analysis on the validity of a source. You are so biased and try to pretend not to be. You should just admit you are a republican.

chocoloco said:
Based on your resonse I doubt you read the article. I also agree with Spaceguy that you bleed red out your pores and try to pretend you are not Rebublican. Any source you do not like you try to discredit it when it actually has a lot of great insight, and becausese of that I put little value in you analysis on the validity of a source. You are so biased and try to pretend not to be. You should just admit you are a republican. |
Based on my response that specifically mentioned stuff in the article you doubt I read the article.
Interesting.
I'm just someone who's generally mindful of the source, takes everything skeptically and note when arguements don't really jive with reality.
Obama will win the election.
Though due to the electoral college.
Nothing this article states is relevent... as it's all stuff that would already show up in the polls.
Some democratic staffer things the pollster's are wrong on likely voters... so do republican staffers, thinking they overestimate numbers based on 08.

Nobody won, except for the corporations and big bankers (Rockefeller, Rothschild, etc). People have to stop being sheep to the 2 party system. They have brought us the Patriot Act, senseless wars, and meddling in unecessary international affairs. Ron Paul is not the only one to realize how stupid our leaders are, check this link out http://news.yahoo.com/third-party-presidential-debate-gives-voice-long-shot-134859048.html and if you have half a brain, you will probably begin to open your eyes slightly. Our system of government is supposed to be that of a Constitutional Republic, where powers not given to the federal government become reserved to each individual state. Where as citizens we have the right to question our leaders without worrying about being branded as commies or terrorists. Where the government works FOR the people, not the other way around. It should also be a government that recognizes the seperation of church and state and stop the stupid existence of "hate crime" laws. I have yet to see someone commit a crime cuz they like someone. If alcohol and cigarettes are legal, so should marijuana and perhaps cocaine be, because this way we save money on the war on drugs and instead can control these substances by taxing them and studying/limiting what chemicals go in them (you can't be so stupid to believe marijuana is worse than cigarettes). We should not be afraid of police officers violating our rights constantly (same goes for TSA). There are many other things I can talk about such as the cheap labor we have in our prisons and how most inmates are in for drug related crimes, which are laws pushed by Rockefellers many years ago, but you can research all that.
Make games, not war (that goes for ridiculous fanboys)
I may be the next Maelstorm or not, you be the judge http://videogamesgrow.blogspot.com/ hopefully I can be more of an asset than a fanboy to VGC hehe.
Kasz216 said:
Based on my response that specifically mentioned stuff in the article you doubt I read the article. Interesting. I'm just someone who's generally mindful of the source, takes everything skeptically and note when arguements don't really jive with reality. |
Correction, you take everything not right wing skeptically. And I am sorry, but your subjective reality is not the absolute one as you seem to think it is. This has valuable insight into how Obama could easily win and you label it as bullshit because you do not like it. It is not a reality that when you label something a bad source for info that it truly is a bad source. Kind of prententious thinking you got aboutconcerning what is a good source and what is not.

Your Registered voter chart does not include Independents which comprise 26% of Americans. That's the first thing with which I take issue as Independent voters rarely side with the incumbent.
Including Ohio in a registered voter chart is laughably stupid. Beyond that, cool...early voting is favoring Obama. Who knew the jobless would vote Early? Shocking.
Thirdly, of the 5 listed states, only 3 of them are considered Swing States. Those being OH (Not even entertaining the findings on that), Florida (Polling Romney +1.8, but really a good TIE), and Iowa (Obama +2, again TIE)
Let's remove NY, clearly (D) and NC (Romney +5.6) is likely Romney.
That leaves 2 out of 5 listed states. Iowa and Florida. 2 states, out of 50. 2 states out of 10 Swing states. Where is the rest of this STUDY???? Do you not question the validity of a study when it purposely cherry picks?