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Who won the last debate?

President Barack Obama 259 61.96%
 
Governor MItt Romney 115 27.51%
 
Nobody/tie 38 9.09%
 
Total:412
chocoloco on 22 October 2012
JoeTheBro said:
chocoloco said:
JoeTheBro said:
drkohler said:
As a European, I have a question to the Americans watching:
Do you really believe that when Romney starts a phrase with "I met a young woman in...", "I just met a guy in.." actaully ever "met" such people?


Yeah. There is no need to make them up.

 

Anyway I can only laugh at people thinking this was a slam dunk for Obama. The debate was very very close and only got good in the last few minutes. Obama seemed to get mad a fair amount of times while Mit did his usual smirk. I really did like the closing statement though of one of them.



Since when was 53-42 a slam dunk? Also on an unrelated note I'm a swing state voter myself so my vote actually counts hahaha.

Uhhhhhh... Most people know I am from Colorado because I constantly talk about it and support the Denver Broncos. Just look at my avatar.



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gergroy on 22 October 2012

Cnn poll
Obama 48%
Romney 40%

Thats a lot closer than i thought it would be... I guess thats what happens when they agree on everything...



chocoloco on 22 October 2012



gergroy on 22 October 2012
Kasz216 said:
spaceguy said:
Kasz216 said:
spaceguy said:
killerzX said:
spaceguy said:
killerzX said:
the gap is widening, Romney is pulling away in the polls. That pretty much shows people thought romney won the first debate, Ryan won the second, mostly due to Bidens constant laughing, smirking and interrupting, and Romney also won the last debate, because Romney has only gained ground in the polls since then.

So i also expect the average american to think Romney won this one.


LMFAO!!!! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Fox News Says^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

honestly. whats with you and fox news. I dont even watch TV news.

i dont know what fox news has to do with this, but im talking about polls. like gallup and Rasmussan and others. they are almost all headed romenys way. gallup has gone up to +7 for romney. he is finally over 50% in polls. Battlground states, romney is closing in. Sure i bet fox news polls have showed polls moving in Romneys favor, but im not really sure what they have to do with this.

http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/

National polls don't mean sh-t. We got a electoral college. Not sure if you know how that works.

Rasmussan is so right wing that all there polls swing red. You kidding me. That don't have a great record.

Rasmussan was by far the most accurate pollsters in the 2008 presidential election.

There national model is particularly strong.



LOL!!! Man you have painted your self red. We get it.

http://electoralmap.net/2012/2008_election.php

Rasmussen Reports 91% A-   92% 86%
Ipsos/McClatchy 89% B+   92% 79%
CNN/Opinion Research 88% B+   92% 77%
Fox News 84% B   92% 61%
Pew 83% B-   92% 56%
GWU/Battleground 79% C+   92% 41%
Diageo/Hotline 77% C+   77% 79%
NBC News / Wall St. Journal 76% C   77% 75%
Gallup Traditional 73% C-   77% 63%
Marist 67% D+   62% 82%
ABC News / Wash Post 67% D+   62% 82%
IBD/TIPP 66% D   77% 34%
Gallup Expanded 66% D   62% 78%
CBS News / NYT 60% D-   62% 56%
Reuters/C-SPAN/Zogby 35% F   31% 48%

 

 

http://www.fordham.edu/images/academics/graduate_schools/gsas/elections_and_campaign_/poll%20accuracy%20in%20the%202008%20presidential%20election.pdf

 

The following list ranks the 23 organizations by the accuracy of their final, national preelection
polls (as reported on pollster.com).

1. Rasmussen (11/1-3)**

1. Pew (10/29-11/1)**

2. YouGov/Polimetrix (10/18-11/1)

3. Harris Interactive (10/20-27)
4. GWU (Lake/Tarrance) (11/2-3)*
5. Diageo/Hotline (10/31-11/2)*
5. ARG (10/25-27)*
6. CNN (10/30-11/1)
6. Ipsos/McClatchy (10/30-11/1)
7. DailyKos.com (D)/Research 2000 (11/1-3)
8. AP/Yahoo/KN (10/17-27)
9. Democracy Corps (D) (10/30-11/2)
10. FOX (11/1-2)
11. Economist/YouGov (10/25-27)
12. IBD/TIPP (11/1-3)
13. NBC/WSJ (11/1-2)
14. ABC/Post (10/30-11/2)
15. Marist College (11/3)
16. CBS (10/31-11/2)
17. Gallup (10/31-11/2)
18. Reuters/ C-SPAN/ Zogby (10/31-11/3)
19. CBS/Times (10/25-29)
20. Newsweek (10/22-23)


Rasmussen was one of the worst in 2010 wasnt it?



Ssenkahdavic on 22 October 2012

This debate showed us all nothing.

Obama: Your policy is wrong! Everything you want to do is wrong!

Romney: I agree with your policies, but Id do the wrong policies sooner and better!

Did I miss something or was this a big ass waste of 90 minutes?



 

  

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theprof00 on 22 October 2012

Technically, bayonets have not been issued in either iraq or afghan, and has also been removed as a training.
What they DO have now, are.combat knives that can be affixed, which is, by definition, a bayonette, but are really just combat knives.
This would be compared to traditional bayonets which were steel spikes that were bayonet frist, knife second.
Anyeay we do have much fewer horses. Unless you count government worker owned horses like romneys racing studs.



badgenome on 22 October 2012
Ssenkahdavic said:
This debate showed us all nothing.

Obama: Your policy is wrong! Everything you want to do is wrong!

Romney: I agree with your policies, but Id do the wrong policies sooner and better!

Did I miss something or was this a big ass waste of 90 minutes?

That's exactly why I didn't watch.

Obama: I'm the more identical twin!

Romney: No, I am!



Tigerlure on 22 October 2012
gergroy said:
Kasz216 said:
spaceguy said:
Kasz216 said:
spaceguy said:
killerzX said:
spaceguy said:
killerzX said:
the gap is widening, Romney is pulling away in the polls. That pretty much shows people thought romney won the first debate, Ryan won the second, mostly due to Bidens constant laughing, smirking and interrupting, and Romney also won the last debate, because Romney has only gained ground in the polls since then.

So i also expect the average american to think Romney won this one.


LMFAO!!!! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Fox News Says^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

honestly. whats with you and fox news. I dont even watch TV news.

i dont know what fox news has to do with this, but im talking about polls. like gallup and Rasmussan and others. they are almost all headed romenys way. gallup has gone up to +7 for romney. he is finally over 50% in polls. Battlground states, romney is closing in. Sure i bet fox news polls have showed polls moving in Romneys favor, but im not really sure what they have to do with this.

http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/

National polls don't mean sh-t. We got a electoral college. Not sure if you know how that works.

Rasmussan is so right wing that all there polls swing red. You kidding me. That don't have a great record.

Rasmussan was by far the most accurate pollsters in the 2008 presidential election.

There national model is particularly strong.



LOL!!! Man you have painted your self red. We get it.

http://electoralmap.net/2012/2008_election.php

Rasmussen Reports 91% A-   92% 86%
Ipsos/McClatchy 89% B+   92% 79%
CNN/Opinion Research 88% B+   92% 77%
Fox News 84% B   92% 61%
Pew 83% B-   92% 56%
GWU/Battleground 79% C+   92% 41%
Diageo/Hotline 77% C+   77% 79%
NBC News / Wall St. Journal 76% C   77% 75%
Gallup Traditional 73% C-   77% 63%
Marist 67% D+   62% 82%
ABC News / Wash Post 67% D+   62% 82%
IBD/TIPP 66% D   77% 34%
Gallup Expanded 66% D   62% 78%
CBS News / NYT 60% D-   62% 56%
Reuters/C-SPAN/Zogby 35% F   31% 48%

 

 

http://www.fordham.edu/images/academics/graduate_schools/gsas/elections_and_campaign_/poll%20accuracy%20in%20the%202008%20presidential%20election.pdf

 

The following list ranks the 23 organizations by the accuracy of their final, national preelection
polls (as reported on pollster.com).

1. Rasmussen (11/1-3)**

1. Pew (10/29-11/1)**

2. YouGov/Polimetrix (10/18-11/1)

3. Harris Interactive (10/20-27)
4. GWU (Lake/Tarrance) (11/2-3)*
5. Diageo/Hotline (10/31-11/2)*
5. ARG (10/25-27)*
6. CNN (10/30-11/1)
6. Ipsos/McClatchy (10/30-11/1)
7. DailyKos.com (D)/Research 2000 (11/1-3)
8. AP/Yahoo/KN (10/17-27)
9. Democracy Corps (D) (10/30-11/2)
10. FOX (11/1-2)
11. Economist/YouGov (10/25-27)
12. IBD/TIPP (11/1-3)
13. NBC/WSJ (11/1-2)
14. ABC/Post (10/30-11/2)
15. Marist College (11/3)
16. CBS (10/31-11/2)
17. Gallup (10/31-11/2)
18. Reuters/ C-SPAN/ Zogby (10/31-11/3)
19. CBS/Times (10/25-29)
20. Newsweek (10/22-23)


Rasmussen was one of the worst in 2010 wasnt it?


Yes, it was.

http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/11/04/rasmussen-polls-were-biased-and-inaccurate-quinnipiac-surveyusa-performed-strongly/

 

 



Kasz216 on 22 October 2012
gergroy said:
 


Rasmussen was one of the worst in 2010 wasnt it?

Yeah, in it's state samples for congressional races.

Presidential election samples and state election samples are totally different formulas.

Since we're on VGchartz... a good example is well... vgChartz.   They have a different formula for each console, because the breakdown of sales isn't consistent.  Toys R US sells  a higher percentage of total wii's then it does PS3,  Amazon sells a higher percentage of Sony based stuff. etc.

Most likely Rasmussen's sampling group is great for simulating the federal but sucks on the local level.  They probably have a great representative sample of the country that isn't geographically located like you would expect within the country. 

 

Rasmussen also had the most accurate presidential polls in 2004.

http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/human_nature/2004/12/lets_go_to_the_audiotape.html

 



chocoloco on 22 October 2012
badgenome said:
Ssenkahdavic said:
This debate showed us all nothing.

Obama: Your policy is wrong! Everything you want to do is wrong!

Romney: I agree with your policies, but Id do the wrong policies sooner and better!

Did I miss something or was this a big ass waste of 90 minutes?

That's exactly why I didn't watch.

Obama: I'm the more identical twin!

Romney: No, I am!

More like Romney went against what his advisors said and he tried to appear moderate to appeal to women.  Obama said a lot of things that were meant to appeal to women. Frankly, it has been shown a lot of women are afraid of Romney.