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If I might make another small addition after my last post, I did actually perform a few calculations on the numbers that might also explain a hesitance on the side of Third Party numbers and a inherent nervousness they might have...

Total Games on VGC that has even a 0.01 in total sold for Vita: 60
Total Software Sold for Vita on VGC: 5.78m
Average of about 96,333 units sold.

Top Ten: 2.84m, so 284k each sold on average. About $11.36m total made if sold @ $40.
First Ten First Party: 2.31m, so 231k each sold on average. About $9.24m total made if sold @ $40.
First Ten Third Party: 1.74m, so 174k each sold on average. About $6.96m total made if sold @ $40.

Just thought it might add something to the conversation.



Kresnik said:
ECM said:

Falcom's going/gone multiplat, so I wouldn't count that chicken quite yet...especially based on sales of the one that came out a few weeks ago.


Do you have a source for that?  I know they've expanded onto Steam, and I could believe that they're developing for 3DS too, but it's the first I've heard of it.

@ Bold, what was wrong with the sales?  It actually did better than a similar game on the PSP (Oath in Felghana was a remake of 3 for the PSP; Foliage Ocean in Celceta was a 'remake' of 4 for the Vita (though slightly different, new story)):

http://www.vgchartz.com/game/41224/ys-the-oath-in-felghana/Japan/  43k LTD in Japan

http://www.vgchartz.com/game/71038/ys-foliage-ocean-in-celceta/Japan/ 47k in 3 weeks in Japan


Two reasons: PSV games cost a great deal more to make than PSP games and it's already garnered the vast majority of the sales it's ever going to see--not exactly a recipe for future success on the platform.

As for Falcom going multiplat, it's a done deal (in their last financial report, and on 3DS as you noted), so I wouldn't count on it staying exclusive until it comes out and it stays exclusive.



ECM said:

Two reasons: PSV games cost a great deal more to make than PSP games and it's already garnered the vast majority of the sales it's ever going to see--not exactly a recipe for future success on the platform.

As for Falcom going multiplat, it's a done deal (in their last financial report, and on 3DS as you noted), so I wouldn't count on it staying exclusive until it comes out and it stays exclusive.

@ bold, I wish I had your crystal ball.  Sure, it's probably not going to sell another 40k in Japan, but for example: Ys Seven sold the same amount as its first week sales in the rest of its life.  Plus there's possibly American sales, which we haven't seen yet.

http://www.vgchartz.com/game/32793/ys-seven/Japan/

About multi-plat, not that I don't believe you because like I said - it's plausible - but do you have a source for it?  Just saying things, however believable they might be, isn't substansive proof.  Do you have a link to their last financial report in english?  All I could find was these:

http://quicktake.morningstar.com/stocknet/secdocuments.aspx?symbol=3723&country=jpn

Which I can't read because they're in Japanese!

Also, I don't know if you've actually seen Ys Celceta, but... it's not going to be a massive investment above the cost of PSP games.  A higher cost, sure, but if you just take a look at it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdVNZ-vNUno

It's really not one of the games that pushes the system to its limits and it seems highly unlikely that they'd have broken the bank developing it compared to PSP.

But, as always, I guess the only thing we can do is wait and see what the future brings.



ECM said:


Two reasons: PSV games cost a great deal more to make than PSP games


I heard vita games were cheap to make. The cost of a ps2 game or something.



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Kresnik said:

@ bold, I wish I had your crystal ball.  Sure, it's probably not going to sell another 40k in Japan, but for example: Ys Seven sold the same amount as its first week sales in the rest of its life.  Plus there's possibly American sales, which we haven't seen yet.

http://www.vgchartz.com/game/32793/ys-seven/Japan/

About multi-plat, not that I don't believe you because like I said - it's plausible - but do you have a source for it?  Just saying things, however believable they might be, isn't substansive proof.  Do you have a link to their last financial report in english?  All I could find was these:

http://quicktake.morningstar.com/stocknet/secdocuments.aspx?symbol=3723&country=jpn

Which I can't read because they're in Japanese!

Also, I don't know if you've actually seen Ys Celceta, but... it's not going to be a massive investment above the cost of PSP games.  A higher cost, sure, but if you just take a look at it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdVNZ-vNUno

It's really not one of the games that pushes the system to its limits and it seems highly unlikely that they'd have broken the bank developing it compared to PSP.

But, as always, I guess the only thing we can do is wait and see what the future brings.


He probably meant this:

http://andriasang.com/con1wg/3ds_legend_of_heroes/

Ys is not mentioned, but Falcom on a different console other than Playstation is pretty rare - since the super famicon that doesn't happen. I believe this new PSP kiseki game (http://andriasang.com/con1zt/nayuta_no_kiseki_video/ ) will be released for 3DS (and Vita)



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VicViper said:

He probably meant this:

http://andriasang.com/con1wg/3ds_legend_of_heroes/

Ys is not mentioned, but Falcom on a different console other than Playstation is pretty rare - since the super famicon that doesn't happen. I believe this new PSP kiseki game (http://andriasang.com/con1zt/nayuta_no_kiseki_video/ ) will be released for 3DS (and Vita)


Thank you.  I searched Falcom + 3DS but didn't come back with anything apart from speculation that they should develop the next Fire Emblem, lol.

Still not necessarily confirmed at this point since the guy writing that article couldn't access the report which says it, but it certainly seems likely.  And I don't blame them really - more money is more money, and they seem like a really excellent company so they deserve it.  I hope they continue developing for Vita in the future as well as 3DS, but I guess we'll see.



ECM said:
Kresnik said:
ECM said:

Falcom's going/gone multiplat, so I wouldn't count that chicken quite yet...especially based on sales of the one that came out a few weeks ago.


Do you have a source for that?  I know they've expanded onto Steam, and I could believe that they're developing for 3DS too, but it's the first I've heard of it.

@ Bold, what was wrong with the sales?  It actually did better than a similar game on the PSP (Oath in Felghana was a remake of 3 for the PSP; Foliage Ocean in Celceta was a 'remake' of 4 for the Vita (though slightly different, new story)):

http://www.vgchartz.com/game/41224/ys-the-oath-in-felghana/Japan/  43k LTD in Japan

http://www.vgchartz.com/game/71038/ys-foliage-ocean-in-celceta/Japan/ 47k in 3 weeks in Japan


Two reasons: PSV games cost a great deal more to make than PSP games and it's already garnered the vast majority of the sales it's ever going to see--not exactly a recipe for future success on the platform.

As for Falcom going multiplat, it's a done deal (in their last financial report, and on 3DS as you noted), so I wouldn't count on it staying exclusive until it comes out and it stays exclusive.

lol, no they don't. This isn't a PS2->HD consoles comparison. People can't make that claim anymore. I'm sure it'll cost slightly more on average, but not enough for that to be a reason. It's even moreso considering Ys4 has already did quite well for itself.



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Kresnik said:


Thank you.  I searched Falcom + 3DS but didn't come back with anything apart from speculation that they should develop the next Fire Emblem, lol.

Still not necessarily confirmed at this point since the guy writing that article couldn't access the report which says it, but it certainly seems likely.  And I don't blame them really - more money is more money, and they seem like a really excellent company so they deserve it.  I hope they continue developing for Vita in the future as well as 3DS, but I guess we'll see.

They won't abandon Sony, no way.

Along with Nippon Icchi I think they're the most loyal developer to playstation of all - at least from the one's that matters. But yeah, money is money.

I'm quite indignated about the japanese situation for Vita, as it's the easiest market to fix (and by far). It's so simple, in fact, and they're letting it enter complicated territory. Fixing japan, fixes almost anything when we talk about portables, imo. I think I get the fame here, but the day Vita gets a exclusive Monster Hunter (or similar game - exclusive final fantasy, dragon quest or a stream of big games made for it) is the day I get a vita, as its the day I think Vita is on the right track. I'm very curious about Soul Sacrifice performance, as it can start something, even though it's too much responsibility for one game they're putting - as Killzone, sly and tearaway won't do nothing in japan). I'm also very excited by these new set of teasers, since people is speculating FF stuff. Even little things like Cloud in PASBR would make a difference in Vita's overall performance in japan.

Vita/Sony shouldn't be making companies like Falcom do this, that's my point here. Multiplats are good, but a system needs exclusives more than anything. It's what made the last portable gen amazing.