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theprof00 said:
In previous threads i could say out of rashness that maybe people dont read.
this time however, it is assured.
Bnji, i said they would likely and i would expect, a standalone console with a slight upgrade of 20%. That is almost a direct quote not only in the op, but in the very post you quoted.

As i said, i would expect a small boost to stay in line with the wiiU thereby helping make them the development consoles. Nintendo predicts that consoles will overshoot the market by being too strong thereby expensive. Ps4 could use a minimal upgrade to ram and processing to stay in line with wiiu will simultaneously being able to offer high res versions of the games through vloud.cloud. its right there in the op.


I did read, but since you don't seem to understand, let me re-quote. here is what you said:

"Also, sure maybe there is problems with cloud gaming at the moment, but whatabout in 2 years when ps4 would be expected?"

In this sentence, you clearly are stating that when the ps4 will be launching (let's assume in 2 years),that you are expecting that cloud gaming will be viable which is false. Yes, you did state that they could sell stand alone consoles that would only work for cloud gaming, but you did also state that you were expecting that cloud gaming would possibly be viable in 2 years which is the  sentence I was referring too in my comment.



Predictions for LT console sales:

PS4: 120M

XB1: 70M

WiiU: 14M

3DS: 60M

Vita: 13M

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I bet sony is keeping tight lipid about the ps4.
They will show it next e3 i bet it will launch in 2013.



VITA 32 GIG CARD.250 GIG SLIM & 160 GIG PHAT PS3

Really interesting topic. I will say that it's too risky for Sony to release online games on other platforms, (including the competition) it will totally change their image even if they do planned to make a new console in a few more years. So even though Sony could cut cost I don't think it will work for them in the long run, if they indeed do that might as well only make software like Sega.



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Cool theory but I seem to recall several interviews where top Sony people have stated that the infrastructure isn't there for online only. I'm too lazy to link it, but just google "Playstation online only" and it should come up.



theprof00 said:

I was having a chat with my friend FrankenFran,

and I was telling him "man, I'm getting really nervous about the ps4. There haven't been any news releases about ps4 dev kits, and nextbox ones have been out for around a year or so. This means that the ps4 won't likely be released until sometime in 2014".

To this he had a really interesting reply, which I'll summarize and expound for you.

Think about it like this. Everything Sony has been doing recently supports a ps4 being released on time, it's just not in the form that we're used to. Look at their moves with purchasing Gaikai. Look at their expansion of Gaikai onto multiple platforms, ios, android, pc...even XBOX. Look at their cooperation with Valve and Gabe Newell. Why on earth would Sony open up their online system to work alongside valve with portal 2 crossplay?

The theory is that Sony approached Gabe a ways back and made clear their intentions for their future console. Sony would go online distribution, and they asked for Mr. Newell's help. (Maybe)

Everything makes so much sense from that standpoint.

1) Cuts out the middleman gamestop, removes a big part of their revenue problem, used games. Will be able to offer games at a reduced rate. Have 'steam' sales
2) Allows them to save on next gen hardware. They don't have to be cutting edge, because the cloud will do all the work.
3) Anti-piracy straight from the server. Of course, there will always be hacks and pirate servers.
4) Allows them to focus more on their content.
5) Allows them exclusive ability to go third party without really going third party. They can put their high content games on ios, android, EVEN XBOX and WiiU, while the reverse cannot happen.
6) Gives them a transition back into their pc business, which Kaz said was a major component, also their phone and pad business.
7) Saves on all major secondary costs such as shipping, boxing, distribution, storage
8) This can all be done straight from their current hardware. No need to improve. Which means, if 360 makes major upgrades, it will be by itself, while ps3 and wiiU are able to run similar quality levels, making those two the major multiplat and base console devs choose over the fledgling 720.
9) Full backwards compatibility spanning all their systems.

 

Anyhoo, to summarize. I'm not expecting to see any huge hardware from sony for the ps4. I believe we'll see something similar to Onlive in the Orbis. We may eventually see a new fully fledged console out at some point, but the point is that they may not need to improve on the ps3 very much. A console with say a 20% power boost over ps3, that can use the vita in a similar setup to wiiU and upgrade all current ps3 offerings would be ideal. In this way, they can still sell boxed games for offline play, people looking to maximize responsiveness/own/collect/whatever, while simultaneously being able to offer a 'high-res' version of their game over the same console through the cloud.


That bolded part would be stupid on Sony's part.  A very uninformed sentiment on your part.

Sorry but what you are saying is that, roughly the PS4 is going to, or should have, roughly 550 GFLOPS of total output.....that's worse than the Wii U.  What would the point even be for putting out such a system?

 

No offense, but you need to take your "idea" back to the drawing board, my friend.

Your buddy too.



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coolguy said:
I bet sony is keeping tight lipid about the ps4.
They will show it next e3 i bet it will launch in 2013.

 

Right....because everything Sony has said and has done clearly shows that.....most def.

*sarcasm off*



coolguy said:
I bet sony is keeping tight lipid about the ps4.
They will show it next e3 i bet it will launch in 2013.


Sony can't keep its secret, everybody knows that :P



The reason why they bought Gaikai is to hedge their bets on the Playstation business and give them an option for an orderly retreat out of the console business as well as giving them a way to spread the cost of their uber expensive AAA titles over more than just the PS3/PS4 userbase.



Tease.

No offense taken hug.
But please next time make sure youve run my post through a translator because it doesnt appear to be written in your first language.



Why would Sony launch a PS4 with only 20% more power? What will I do with it? Why would I upgrade from my PS3? Why buy it when the 720 can play Battlefield 4 at 1080P/60 FPS?

Only a few percentage of gamers has the kind of internet connection needed for game streaming, maybe in 12 years it will happen.