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davygee said:
michael_stutzer said:

 So, the A5 with its  512 MB miserable RAM is better than Tegra 3 and 1GB RAM?  Or 1024x768 display is infact "retina" compared to the 1280x800 display or 1440x900? Now people can't see pixels when it goes above 163 PPI and 216 or 243 PPI is unnecessary? Crappy multitasking and 5 years old interface equals a better OS? Seriously,  where is the "BLATANTLY OBVIOUS" part?

I can go on but no  need really. After reading this post you will still think that Ipad mini will be better than the competition even specwise and prepare a post about the camera.


I agree that the Nexus 7 does have a better screen resolution and has 1Gb RAM compared to 512MB on the iPad mini...but in fact the A5 with built in custom GPU is more powerful than the Tegra 3.  The OS is down the individual, but the concensus is that iOS is better than Android....the only mobile OS that comes close and is getting really good is WP.  I hate all the clone OS provided by Android.  Don't get me wrong, the Nexus 7 is a decent machine at a great price...but with regards to sales, there will be no contest.  What you may be forgetting is, who really wants to do Multitasking using a tablet?  The general tablet audience don't want to do that.  Yeah it would be nice, but what are you gonna do on a tablet that requires great multitasking?

Actually quick question?  Do you own a Nexus 7 by any chance?  Or some other tablet?

The CPU and RAM is quite better in the Nexus, The GPU is quite a bit better in Ipad. So that makes it a more powerful SOC. OK. LOL what consensus? If you read reviews pretty much every single one of them say that the OS is now in need of a big revamp. Unless you love the maps introduced in the IOS 6, of course. It is not like we need to see reviews anyway. Rows with static icons and the need of 4-5 taps to change the basic settings is not the definition of a better OS. I don't even go into the clone OS argument, so much crap.

The only thing Ipad Mini is good at is apps. Not the amount of it because 90% of them are useless and never gets downloaded. But the amount of tablet optimized apps are good. No contest at that. 

I don't have a Nexus 7 or any other tablet. I owned an Ipad 1 for a few months quite a bit ago though. I despise them. If I ever need one (which won't happen probably) I'd only consider one that has a good OS with good multitasking and it is Windows. Though they are very expensive and I wouldn't bother with them as well at the moment. Chromebook has promise but the OS needs to get better and it isn't available at where I live.



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michael_stutzer said:

The CPU and RAM is quite better in the Nexus, The GPU is quite a bit better in Ipad. So that makes it a more powerful SOC. OK. LOL what consensus? If you read reviews pretty much every single one of them say that the OS is now in need of a big revamp. Unless you love the maps introduced in the IOS 6, of course. It is not like we need to see reviews anyway. Rows with static icons and the need of 4-5 taps to change the basic settings is not the definition of a better OS. I don't even go into the clone OS argument, so much crap.

The only thing Ipad Mini is good at is apps. Not the amount of it because 90% of them are useless and never gets downloaded. But the amount of tablet optimized apps are good. No contest at that. 

I don't have a Nexus 7 or any other tablet. I owned an Ipad 1 for a few months quite a bit ago though. I despise them. If I ever need one (which won't happen probably) I'd only consider one that has a good OS with good multitasking and it is Windows. Though they are very expensive and I wouldn't bother with them as well at the moment. Chromebook has promise but the OS needs to get better and it isn't available at where I live.

Oh well it's all a matter of opinion isn't it.  You obviously have a bee in your bonnet with regards to Apple/iPad/iOS.  Basically Apple products do what they say on the tin and do it well.  By the sounds of it, you are single mindedly MS based, which is fine, but sometimes you need to look beyond.  I personally have an iPad 1 and have done since it's launch in the UK in May 2010.  It has been brilliant for me and my family and extensively gets used for between 4-6 hours daily and still works brilliantly.  I reckon i've more than had my £500 worth.  I think this is why Apple products in general are well received and sell well is because they are well built products, last well and retain value and quality.



Prediction (June 12th 2017)

Permanent pricedrop for both PS4 Slim and PS4 Pro in October.

PS4 Slim $249 (October 2017)

PS4 Pro $349 (October 2017)

I hope Apple fatigue sets in soon. Both Samsung and MS have cell phones and tablets respectively that trump Apple products on price and functions.

This is a unique situation where people literally love a corporation that takes advantage of them with overpriced products and frequent updates (with minimal improvements).



Xbox: Best hardware, Game Pass best value, best BC, more 1st party genres and multiplayer titles. 

 

sales2099 said:
I hope Apple fatigue sets in soon. Both Samsung and MS have cell phones and tablets respectively that trump Apple products on price and functions.

This is a unique situation where people literally love a corporation that takes advantage of them with overpriced products and frequent updates (with minimal improvements).

I agree to an extent, especially with MS, as their WP OS is very cool, and different, which is what we need.  Unfortunately Samsung's OS is just an iOS clone and in all honesty, most people would go with an iPhone over a Galaxy...although the S3 is a great phone.  I recently got a Nokia Lumia WP and it's great and a good difference from all the icon lozenge based systems out there (ie iOS and Android).

I doubt there will ever be Apple fatigue, but honestly reckon we are seeing iOS fatigue now and it won't be long before Apple need to do something about it.

I'm not sure I agree with your comment about Samsung & MS have phones and tablets that trump Apple products on price and functions.  Yes, the S3 is technically better than the iPhone 4S, but is it better than the 5.  And with the new iPad 4, is there a tablet on the market that has similar features technically?  Retina Screen, Front and Rear Camera, CPU/GPU?  Not yet, but maybe soon.



Prediction (June 12th 2017)

Permanent pricedrop for both PS4 Slim and PS4 Pro in October.

PS4 Slim $249 (October 2017)

PS4 Pro $349 (October 2017)

davygee said:
sales2099 said:
I hope Apple fatigue sets in soon. Both Samsung and MS have cell phones and tablets respectively that trump Apple products on price and functions.

This is a unique situation where people literally love a corporation that takes advantage of them with overpriced products and frequent updates (with minimal improvements).

I agree to an extent, especially with MS, as their WP OS is very cool, and different, which is what we need.  Unfortunately Samsung's OS is just an iOS clone and in all honesty, most people would go with an iPhone over a Galaxy...although the S3 is a great phone.  I recently got a Nokia Lumia WP and it's great and a good difference from all the icon lozenge based systems out there (ie iOS and Android).

I doubt there will ever be Apple fatigue, but honestly reckon we are seeing iOS fatigue now and it won't be long before Apple need to do something about it.

I'm not sure I agree with your comment about Samsung & MS have phones and tablets that trump Apple products on price and functions.  Yes, the S3 is technically better than the iPhone 4S, but is it better than the 5.  And with the new iPad 4, is there a tablet on the market that has similar features technically?  Retina Screen, Front and Rear Camera, CPU/GPU?  Not yet, but maybe soon.

Are you referring to the New Ipad or is this yet another unreleased iteration?

I heard that the Surface has slightly better resolution, a usb port, and MS office integrated. That alone can set it apart in functionality.



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sales2099 said:

Are you referring to the New Ipad or is this yet another unreleased iteration?

I heard that the Surface has slightly better resolution, a usb port, and MS office integrated. That alone can set it apart in functionality.

I am referring to the latest iteration (iPad 4th Generation).

Surface comes in 2 versions, the Windows RT and Windows 8 PRO.  The RT version has a display of 1366x768, Tegra 3 CPU and front and rear 720p cameras whereas the Windows 8 PRO version has a display of 1920x1080, Intel i5 CPU and again front and rear 720p cameras.

So the iPad 4 has a better screen resolution than either the RT and 8 PRO versions.

Acutally looking at the specs again, the Surface RT version is comparable spec-wise with an iPad 2/iPad mini or thereabouts.  The Surface Windows 8 PRO will be some beast CPU wise, but the iPad 4 keeps up well with it although probably not as powerful, but the Windows 8 PRO version will be significantly more expensive and rumours place it around £600-£700 for the basic 64Gb model.



Prediction (June 12th 2017)

Permanent pricedrop for both PS4 Slim and PS4 Pro in October.

PS4 Slim $249 (October 2017)

PS4 Pro $349 (October 2017)

pezus said:
davygee said:


I agree that the Nexus 7 does have a better screen resolution and has 1Gb RAM compared to 512MB on the iPad mini...but in fact the A5 with built in custom GPU is more powerful than the Tegra 3.  The OS is down the individual, but the concensus is that iOS is better than Android....the only mobile OS that comes close and is getting really good is WP.  I hate all the clone OS provided by Android.  Don't get me wrong, the Nexus 7 is a decent machine at a great price...but with regards to sales, there will be no contest.  What you may be forgetting is, who really wants to do Multitasking using a tablet?  The general tablet audience don't want to do that.  Yeah it would be nice, but what are you gonna do on a tablet that requires great multitasking?

Actually quick question?  Do you own a Nexus 7 by any chance?  Or some other tablet?

What exactly makes iOS better than the latest Android OS? You say multitasking doesn't matter, but what DOES matter so much that makes iOS better?

It is a beautiful app launcher of an operating system. It offers nothing more than android at the moment. It is easier for older crowd to use. I think that is about it. 



Soundwave said:

I'm guessing the iPhone 6 will have a 5-inch screen or at least have an option for that, since apparently 7.9 inches is OK for single hand use.

iPad mini is a cool product, but I think they should've gone with $299.99 for the 16GB model. Oh well, it's Apple they can probably get away with it especially through Christmas.

So 7.9 now is OK for single hand use.

So how does that commercial with the showing the thumb moving and how the iphone 5's screen is the exact size match up then.  

They make a commercial blatently saying that iphone 5 is the maximum size a phone screen should be for one hand use, anything bigger is not "natural"

And then they come out with this, which is much bigger than any phone on the market and they say its stil one hand opperable.  

Sadly Apple fans and reviewers will eat this up.  Reading a review about technology products is like reading a political article.  They all scream huge bias, its pathetic.



pezus said:
davygee said:


I agree that the Nexus 7 does have a better screen resolution and has 1Gb RAM compared to 512MB on the iPad mini...but in fact the A5 with built in custom GPU is more powerful than the Tegra 3.  The OS is down the individual, but the concensus is that iOS is better than Android....the only mobile OS that comes close and is getting really good is WP.  I hate all the clone OS provided by Android.  Don't get me wrong, the Nexus 7 is a decent machine at a great price...but with regards to sales, there will be no contest.  What you may be forgetting is, who really wants to do Multitasking using a tablet?  The general tablet audience don't want to do that.  Yeah it would be nice, but what are you gonna do on a tablet that requires great multitasking?

Actually quick question?  Do you own a Nexus 7 by any chance?  Or some other tablet?

What exactly makes iOS better than the latest Android OS? You say multitasking doesn't matter, but what DOES matter so much that makes iOS better?

The difference is familiarity and ease of use.  iOS has pretty much been the same OS for over 5 years now.  Android is difference because every product developer has effectively made their own templated OS that sits on top of Android.  Multitasking matters to some, but not all.  We are talking the full OS experience which includes Apps.  Because every company and their mother wants to use Android but build their own wee design on top effectively changing the way the OS looks and feel makes a very uneven environment for users.  And in short their is very little brand loyalty with regards to mobile phones (other than Apple).  I hope it would change, and maybe it will with WP8 but I doubt it.  One other problem is updateability.  Tell me of one phone or tablet that will allow you significant OS updates throughout a 3 year lifespan.  The problem you have is being able to cope with the Android update first and foremost, then the layered Software update from the specific Company your product comes from.

My iPad 1 was delivered with iOS 3.2 and was progressively upgraded to iOS 5.1.1 over a 2 year lifespan.  Unfortunately it was deemed not powerful enough for iOS 6 released in September 2012.



Prediction (June 12th 2017)

Permanent pricedrop for both PS4 Slim and PS4 Pro in October.

PS4 Slim $249 (October 2017)

PS4 Pro $349 (October 2017)

I honestly can't believe all the bitter comments from obvious anti-Apple folk, it's unreal. It's like the old Spectrum vs Commodore all over again.



Prediction (June 12th 2017)

Permanent pricedrop for both PS4 Slim and PS4 Pro in October.

PS4 Slim $249 (October 2017)

PS4 Pro $349 (October 2017)