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Forums - Politics - Who won the debate? Biden or Ryan?

 

Who won the debate?

Vice President Joe Biden 218 52.03%
 
Congressman Paul Ryan 123 29.36%
 
Nobody/Tie 73 17.42%
 
Total:414
Mr Khan said:

Which is true, albeit different from the earlier point you were making previously. No-one is debating that central planning was poorly implemented to the point of causing humanitarian disaster, but what i rather meant by qualifying the word "survive" was how the poor generally didn't live very well before the income floors were installed. Yes, you survive, but at what cost?

I would argue that the relative standard of living before the introduction of welfare and/or minimum wage was roughly equal to what we have seen since then; and I would suggest that the introduction of the welfare state has made things substantially worse for the poor. If you look at the Gini coefficient since the end of World War 2 in the United States, you will notice that inequality really began to increase after the introduction of the welfare state