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osed125 said:
Khuutra said:

A transgender person who identifies as a woman is a woman.

She/he is identified as a man and I doubt there's a sex change involve in the game (that will be 100x weirder), so if all these theories are true Vivian IS a man, doesn't matter how he identifies himself.

You are confusing "gender" with "sex". Gender is a social construct; sex is chromosomal.

Vivian doesn't have chromosomes; she doesn't even properly have a body. She is a ghost.



Khuutra said:
osed125 said:
Khuutra said:

A transgender person who identifies as a woman is a woman.

She/he is identified as a man and I doubt there's a sex change involve in the game (that will be 100x weirder), so if all these theories are true Vivian IS a man, doesn't matter how he identifies himself.

You are confusing "gender" with "sex". Gender is a social construct; sex is chromosomal.

Vivian doesn't have chromosomes; she doesn't even properly have a body. She is a ghost.

You're right I confused the terms. And Vivian is indeed a ghost, so I guess this doesn't really matter :P



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Khuutra said:
osed125 said:
morenoingrato said:
That's only in the Japanese version.

Good job trying to downplay TTYD to make the PMSS hate seem smaller.
Kidding.

Well that's only because americans always censored games, the developers apparently make her transgender, which is mind blowing to see that in a Nintendo game.

A transgender person who identifies as a woman is a woman.

Depends.  If appearance makes it impossible to avoid knowing he/she is/was a man, then he/she would only be a woman to herself.  Depending on how you look at things. 

In other words...you are what you're born as. 



 

Ultimately she's sex-indeterminate, like Birdo.



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sperrico87 said:
Khuutra said:

A transgender person who identifies as a woman is a woman.

Depends.  If appearance makes it impossible to avoid knowing he/she is/was a man, then he/she would only be a woman to herself.  Depending on how you look at things. 

In other words...you are what you're born as. 

As I said above; gender is a social construct. Sex is physical. Even ignoring the point that gender identity is not indelibly tied to the chromosomes you have:

Vivian is a motherfucking ghost.

If Vivian identifies as a lady, she is a lady.



Interesting video.

I clicked and watched the Banjo Kazooie one and felt super sad watching the first half of the video. :( The second half was awesome though, I had no idea about the pirate guy.



Mindf***!! My childhood is lost.



We need moar Zelda, now!

We need moar Unchartedzz!

We need less DLCs.