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What would you vote for?

Democrats 81 38.57%
 
Republicans 35 16.67%
 
I won't vote 19 9.05%
 
I'm still undecided 7 3.33%
 
I am not an American and ... 56 26.67%
 
I am not an American and ... 11 5.24%
 
Total:209
Zappykins on 07 October 2012

I am kind of surprised by the polls. Seems like there are many vocal republicans on VGC.

My number once choice would be Jill Stein. I think she would be best for the country, with Obama second. She seems to stand for science, reason, fairness, etc.

Romney might be best for me in some ways (I own some business) but at the cost of people that have jobs and those that work for a living. And since they are my consumers I think I would lose in the long run and he would further damage the country and it's reputation. (Plus I think he is a major fail on basic civil rights, etc.)

I know my libertarian leaning friends love Johnson, but he seems think business and deregulation will solve everything and I just wonder where he has been living the last several years. Maybe there is something in him I don't see.

Here is a fun poll for anyone interested



 

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Kasz216 on 07 October 2012
Zappykins said:

I am kind of surprised by the polls. Seems like there are many vocal republicans on VGC.

My number once choice would be Jill Stein. I think she would be best for the country, with Obama second. She seems to stand for science, reason, fairness, etc.

Romney might be best for me in some ways (I own some business) but at the cost of people that have jobs and those that work for a living. And since they are my consumers I think I would lose in the long run and he would further damage the country and it's reputation. (Plus I think he is a major fail on basic civil rights, etc.)

I know my libertarian leaning friends love Johnson, but he seems think business and deregulation will solve everything and I just wonder where he has been living the last several years. Maybe there is something in him I don't see.

Here is a fun poll for anyone interested

Reality...

deregulation won't solve everything, but it would solve a lot.

You just need to look at the economy and understand why a lot of stuff isn't working. 

For example, most job growth in companies come after a company goes public with an IPO.

However, almost no companies go public anymore.

Most people founding companies don't want to go public anymore.

Why?  Excessive regulation after the Dot.com bubble.

Now everyone instead wants to create an awesome product, and sell it to some microsoft or sony or whoever to replace whatever product they alerady have, leading to no job gains.


We've actually had a jobs growth problem long before the GFC... starting after the dot.com crash.



weaveworld on 07 October 2012

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Kasz216 on 07 October 2012

Actually... I like this Ralph Nader quote quite a bit.

"Nader gave Obama this much: He’s the lesser of two evils when compared to GOP presidential nominee Mitt Romney. But he said Obama is “the more effective evil because he brings credibility, he brings the democratic heritage to it, he has legitimized the lawless war-mongering and militarism abroad of George W. Bush.”"

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0912/81649.html#ixzz28bvtpgu0



TeddostheFireKing on 07 October 2012

I'm not America, but I prefer Obama over Romney, I really dislike Romney's policy's with marriage and abortion, energy and his economic 'plan' doesn't seem to actually work when you work out the numbers :S

Obama then kind of won by default, although I didn't like his actions during the BP oil spill much.



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chocoloco on 07 October 2012
SamuelRSmith said:
chocoloco said:
SamuelRSmith said:
chocoloco said:
Independent who only votes Democrat as I think Republicans are the farthest group away from my political viewpoints except for maybe Nazis.


Except, you know, the Nazis were... "the national socialists", and very much favoured an all-powerful central Government (Hitler was 100% opposed to states-rights), state-intervention in the economy, state takeover of the largest industries (Volkswagon = people cars).

I do not favor an-all-powerful central government at all. The states are so different it would be stupid to give one body so much power. I was more refferring to their foreign policy towards subjugating nations and euthanasia, especially towards the Jews. That sort of thing sticks in my mind more than what you mentioned.

You should really look into the history of which parties supported slavery, and which were against it. Or, which party supported civil rights, and which were against it. Or, which party supported the Jim Crow laws, and which were against. Or, which party's extremist element it was that formed the KKK.

As for modern foreign policy... both parties are exactly the same.

I think it is funny you think I do not know a lot of what you are mentioning and I do not know why going back in the past that far would affect my voting now. Never voting right wing, get over it. You cannot vote here.



Mr Khan on 07 October 2012
Kasz216 said:
Zappykins said:

I am kind of surprised by the polls. Seems like there are many vocal republicans on VGC.

My number once choice would be Jill Stein. I think she would be best for the country, with Obama second. She seems to stand for science, reason, fairness, etc.

Romney might be best for me in some ways (I own some business) but at the cost of people that have jobs and those that work for a living. And since they are my consumers I think I would lose in the long run and he would further damage the country and it's reputation. (Plus I think he is a major fail on basic civil rights, etc.)

I know my libertarian leaning friends love Johnson, but he seems think business and deregulation will solve everything and I just wonder where he has been living the last several years. Maybe there is something in him I don't see.

Here is a fun poll for anyone interested

Reality...

deregulation won't solve everything, but it would solve a lot.

You just need to look at the economy and understand why a lot of stuff isn't working. 

For example, most job growth in companies come after a company goes public with an IPO.

However, almost no companies go public anymore.

Most people founding companies don't want to go public anymore.

Why?  Excessive regulation after the Dot.com bubble.

Now everyone instead wants to create an awesome product, and sell it to some microsoft or sony or whoever to replace whatever product they alerady have, leading to no job gains.


We've actually had a jobs growth problem long before the GFC... starting after the dot.com crash.

The problem is that we tend to think of regulation in a "have it or don't" kind of way, and nobody really gives thought to fixing regulation because the side opposed to the current regulation usually just wants total deregulation, so we can't have an effective dialogue about what regulations are effective, or how we might fix them.

Part of the reason why you can't get anything done because of the Republicans. You can't have a dialogue with them.



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Kasz216 on 07 October 2012
Mr Khan said:
Kasz216 said:
Zappykins said:

I am kind of surprised by the polls. Seems like there are many vocal republicans on VGC.

My number once choice would be Jill Stein. I think she would be best for the country, with Obama second. She seems to stand for science, reason, fairness, etc.

Romney might be best for me in some ways (I own some business) but at the cost of people that have jobs and those that work for a living. And since they are my consumers I think I would lose in the long run and he would further damage the country and it's reputation. (Plus I think he is a major fail on basic civil rights, etc.)

I know my libertarian leaning friends love Johnson, but he seems think business and deregulation will solve everything and I just wonder where he has been living the last several years. Maybe there is something in him I don't see.

Here is a fun poll for anyone interested

Reality...

deregulation won't solve everything, but it would solve a lot.

You just need to look at the economy and understand why a lot of stuff isn't working. 

For example, most job growth in companies come after a company goes public with an IPO.

However, almost no companies go public anymore.

Most people founding companies don't want to go public anymore.

Why?  Excessive regulation after the Dot.com bubble.

Now everyone instead wants to create an awesome product, and sell it to some microsoft or sony or whoever to replace whatever product they alerady have, leading to no job gains.


We've actually had a jobs growth problem long before the GFC... starting after the dot.com crash.

The problem is that we tend to think of regulation in a "have it or don't" kind of way, and nobody really gives thought to fixing regulation because the side opposed to the current regulation usually just wants total deregulation, so we can't have an effective dialogue about what regulations are effective, or how we might fix them.

Part of the reason why you can't get anything done because of the Republicans. You can't have a dialogue with them.

Did you watch the Presidential debate?  I mean the exact opposite happened there.

Romney pointed out many issues with Dodd-Frank and mentioned that he'd keep a lot of it.   While Obama claimed Romney wanted no regulations on anything.

Heck, most reporting on the "grand deal" tends to blame the Obama team as well.

While the republicans publically want to make themselves look like the one who won't budge on anything... actually, it mostly looks to be the opposite.



mysticwolf on 07 October 2012

I'm kind of leaning towards Obama at this point.



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spaceguy on 08 October 2012
Kasz216 said:
Mr Khan said:
Kasz216 said:
Zappykins said:

I am kind of surprised by the polls. Seems like there are many vocal republicans on VGC.

My number once choice would be Jill Stein. I think she would be best for the country, with Obama second. She seems to stand for science, reason, fairness, etc.

Romney might be best for me in some ways (I own some business) but at the cost of people that have jobs and those that work for a living. And since they are my consumers I think I would lose in the long run and he would further damage the country and it's reputation. (Plus I think he is a major fail on basic civil rights, etc.)

I know my libertarian leaning friends love Johnson, but he seems think business and deregulation will solve everything and I just wonder where he has been living the last several years. Maybe there is something in him I don't see.

Here is a fun poll for anyone interested

Reality...

deregulation won't solve everything, but it would solve a lot.

You just need to look at the economy and understand why a lot of stuff isn't working. 

For example, most job growth in companies come after a company goes public with an IPO.

However, almost no companies go public anymore.

Most people founding companies don't want to go public anymore.

Why?  Excessive regulation after the Dot.com bubble.

Now everyone instead wants to create an awesome product, and sell it to some microsoft or sony or whoever to replace whatever product they alerady have, leading to no job gains.


We've actually had a jobs growth problem long before the GFC... starting after the dot.com crash.

The problem is that we tend to think of regulation in a "have it or don't" kind of way, and nobody really gives thought to fixing regulation because the side opposed to the current regulation usually just wants total deregulation, so we can't have an effective dialogue about what regulations are effective, or how we might fix them.

Part of the reason why you can't get anything done because of the Republicans. You can't have a dialogue with them.

Did you watch the Presidential debate?  I mean the exact opposite happened there.

Romney pointed out many issues with Dodd-Frank and mentioned that he'd keep a lot of it.   While Obama claimed Romney wanted no regulations on anything.

Heck, most reporting on the "grand deal" tends to blame the Obama team as well.

While the republicans publically want to make themselves look like the one who won't budge on anything... actually, it mostly looks to be the opposite.


Have you watched anything on Romney? seems you have not. It seems a lot of republicans forget he flipped on every issue. He has been going around the country telling the exact opposite. You like to ignore all that and stick with his  etch a sketch moments like that has been his view all along. He will say and do anything that will get him elected.

 

Oh yea if you haven't noticed deregulation crashed us. So yes there is bad regulation and good regulation but as said above. You have stated many times to totally deregulate in the past. I will expect you to flip as much as mitt robbed me.