Well kasz216, none of us want you to have kids anyways....so what you think about that? HUH?
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Well kasz216, none of us want you to have kids anyways....so what you think about that? HUH?
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| jlauro said: Personally I am against most of the exceptions. That said, if the choices of reducing the murders a day by a million a year instead of a million and 100 thousand, or not being called a hypocrite and letting the killing of millions of inocent lives go on than I don't care what you call me. Abortion is legal for all 9 months in the United States. No one has answered yet what the difference is besides a few hours for labor and delivery. I think you are a much bigger hypocrate if you are pro choice and don't support the parents killing their baby for the first few months or years after it's been born!
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Wow, you just managed to miss the entire point of pro-choicers.
People who are pro choice don't believe that in the early stages of development a fertilised egg can be recognised as human life. Of course a baby is human life and thus has human rights.
It is hypocritical in my opinion to support 'murder' only in certain circumstances and as 'pro-lifers' believe that abortion is murder they should be against all abortion. Personally I support murder under no circumstances but I do not view abortion as murder until the child is around 5 months into development.

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Fair enough. But I still think that in order for me to actually be able to feel pain, I must also be able to think. That is, in order for what I feel to count as pain, I must have sufficient conscious to realise that I would prefer that what I am feeling would go away. So if I can feel I can think (to some basic level), therefore I am.
| Declan said: @fkusumot Fair enough. But I still think that in order for me to actually be able to feel pain, I must also be able to think. That is, in order for what I feel to count as pain, I must have sufficient conscious to realise that I would prefer that what I am feeling would go away. So if I can feel I can think (to some basic level), therefore I am. |
Fine. IF that works for you. Now how do you determine the same about others?
Both. It depends upon the circumstances. I'm of the general view that when you try and establish a single option it is invariably flawed in certain circumstances.
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Epic win. Pro-lifers who make exceptions for rape and so on are hypocrites. Every pro-lifer needs to be able to fully address this post. As for me, pro-choice. Up to some point more than halfway through the pregnancy the life is not a person but rather a potential person, and in many cases the likely outcome of that potential is not good or even ruinous to the person, the mother/family, or both. |
1. I've already addressed the points above. But they are important questions that people should think about. Why do some support allowing abortion in cases of rape and incest, as if that makes a child less a child? I don't see the logic in it.
2. How do you decide that a fetus is human randomly at the halfway point in a pregnancy? That is a ridiculous statement. Not only have children been born before that point and survived, but what makes a fetus non-human one day and human the next? How do you even know what is halfway through a pregnancy since they aren't the same length?
This kind of thinking is what most mystifies me about those who are pro-abortion (or at least pro-keeping-abortion-legal). It can lead easily to the conclusion that you are merely rationalizing the issue for convenience's sake, since it is completely illogical. Also, please explain to me how a fetus with its own genetic code, growing on its own, with its own body, beating heart and brain wave activity is not human but merely a "potential" person.
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Abortion is murder. You're killing a baby.
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Umm, no, no it is not, and you are kidding yourself if you believe that. Otherwise there would be a lot of girls in jail, and a hell of a lot more kids in foster care.
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Yes, because we all know that she can put the child up for abortion while it's still inside her body.
Seriously, did you even read my post entirely? I said that perhaps she can't go through with the pregnancy because she'd have to miss work and lose money. There would also be the case of increased medical bills.
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^^^ Whatever there is still no excuse for killing a human being in my opinion.