I love Halo 4 and think CoD is decent and i also love borderlands.

well if you don't like the core gameplay then the game is just not for you, but to say that the game has no substance because you don't like the substance of the game is a bit silly.

The first Borderlands left a bad taste in my mouth, so ill be waiting for a price drop on this one.

I got it for free otherwise i would of waited for a price drop as well.

It's not a subjective accusation, it's totally objective. I went into it wanting to like it.

It's roughly the same mission over and over, and the promise of a million guns is really only the promise of 10 guns with wacky modifiers that force you to check all the 30 guns on the floor with your own to see how they compare. I think developers looked at some polls and studies and said "ok look, here's what gamers like, collecting lots of things, upgrading stuff, quests, grittiness, and memes" and then built a game around that.

I mean just look at a very similar game, fallout 3, and look at the quality difference. It's easy to tell that borderlands draws heavily from fallout 3, yet there's none of the same substance. Fallout 3 had some true wackiness cleverly implemented, like the town where two superhero wannabees duked it out everyday, and then you can side with one, and then you get a reward based on what you do http://guides.gamepressure.com/fallout3/guide.asp?ID=5690

Sure it's not as wacky as some of the quests in BL, but it is more cleverly implemented than 90% of BL. (In my humble opinion)

So what you are saying is that you don't like loot games, that's ok. But again just because you don't like it doesn't mean that it doesn't exist, there is substance to Borderlands (and a lot more so Borderlands 2). And borderlands is really nothing like Fallout other than the FPS with RPG elements thing, the gameplay, setting, and humour are all totally different. Borderlands is an FPS+Diablo not an open world RPG. 

I'm not saying that. I like loot games. I love diablo.

Borderlands is NOT diablo in any shape or form, and I am still bitter that I fell for the tagline "more weapons than diablo".

Anyway, you like it, I don't. Objective reviews aren't for everyone. :D

Wait liniar action RPG, with randomised loot (with several base weapon types with lots of modifiers, and sub types), multiple damage types, designed for multiple playthoughs through the same story with 1 character which get progressivelytougher, with optional sidequests, dungeons, strong co-op focus, base classes with 3 skill trees (simplified to 1 active skill). How is that nothing like Diablo? And technically Borderlands does have more weapons than Diablo, they did the math 

And als when did reviews enter into the conversation? And an objective review of a artistic medium is a misnomer.

Sorry it's just not. It's all the WORDS that are often heard when someone talks about diablo, but it's nothing like it. It's like saying forza is like gran turismo.

Saying something is like diablo but fps, is just ilke saying it's like fallout, but with randomized loot. :D

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But Forza is like GT, they are both racing sims. Objectively they are very similar. And they are not just words they are aspects of the game.