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Mr Khan said:

Because how do you decide to choose a group of people that will perfectly represent the group you are trying to really get to?

That's science. I need 2000 people to represent America (a body of 300 million), how do i pick them?

I guess you could twist Science to mean that... It makes sense, I guess.



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dsgrue3 said:
Kasz216 said:
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Kasz216 said:
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richardhutnik said:
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  I swear, I don't understand why people think replying in the comment they're replying to is a good thing.  It's just plain annoying.

 

Aslo... um no.   GBL passed  90-8 in the senate.   Your thinking of an earlier bill before reconciliation.

Whoops, double posted... but i'll use this to handle the rest.

Look at the legislation again.

1) Commercial Banks could already invest in the stock market before this and investment banks could already offer savings plans.

Additionally, not it is still illegal to gamble in the stock market with customers money.   See why what MF Global did was illegal... but isn't be prosecuted because well... John Corzine is the former democratic govonor of new jersey and big Obama campaign contributor.  (Was going to be on is 2nd term presidtial team according to MF Global contracts.

 

 

2) The Acronyms should be simple.   GLB - Gramm Leach Bliley, and GFC is obviously global finaical crisis... that's a very common one.

 

 

3) Not seeing how Warren Buffet privately taking over a valuable bank = government bailout of a bank.

Warren buffet snatched up a failing bank that still had more profit then loss.

 

The same would of happened to any of the big banks the government bailed out.... that didn't fuck up too badly.  The rest would  of died off, and we'd be better off for it.

I am speaking on the Senate's version of the GLB. In order to pass the bill with bipartisan support, it needed to be modified in order to produce the final bill that was ultimately passed 90-8. Since Republicans had a majority in the Senate, it passed regardless of Democratic disapproval.

Learn the difference between would've and would have. (There is no "would of") I cannot stand to see such elementary errors on your behalf.

1) Banks were only able to do so in the couple years prior to GLB because it was a process of change. (Other provisions were relaxed from Glass-Steagall)

2) I can name several common acronyms that you would have no idea of their meaning. You define your acronyms prior to using them. This is common logic.

3) Never mentioned anything about Warren Buffet being a government entity. You seem rather confused. I stated that Warren saved a gigantic failing bank, which ultimately improved. The same can be said of the government bailouts.

Why you would want banks to fail is beyond me. More banks = more competition and better rates for the populace.

 

 

Don't see your point.  It would of been overridden in both houses.


A) Actually can't.  Have dysgraphia.  It's like dislexia but involves writing and grammer.

 

1)  That Depends how you want to define couple of years... though either way, like I said, your wrong on that.

2)  Considering the terms were already used earlier on... abreviations should be common sense?   If two people were talking about the Teengage Mutant Ninja Turtles for the entire thread and someoby mentions the TMNT.... I think it should be common knowledge what is being referred to.

3)  He saved a giant bank to make money.... as would of happened to any giant bank that could of still made money, thanks to the private sector.

Also no... saving banks =/= more competion.   When the big banks were about to fail many smaller banks rose up and started making loans where the big guys couldn't anymore.

After the bailouts of the big banks, these banks were mostly crushed and destroyed.   This led to less competiton.   Which is generally the issue.  When you hold banks as too big to fail... they can go out of their way to crush little banks, create bubbles (see rates that are too good) and can get unfair advantages thanks to regulations compliance.  (They have to spend much less on it.)

Furthermore Dodd-Frank is now about to crush a bunch more smalller banks.  End result is too big to fail will become even bigger and even more unable to fail in the minds of politicians.

Had we let the large banks fail, plenty of smaller banks would of rose up leading to far mroe competition as they each fought to fill their predecessors shoes, run by younger executives who learned from the mistakes of the big banks before them.



Dysgraphia applies only to handwriting. It's a spatial thing. It would not effect your ability to comprehend information, so obviously you are suffering from some other disorder...or you are lying.

Grammar*

1) No. Look it up.
2) The terms were not used prior.
3) Yes. And?



NintendoPie said:
Mr Khan said:

Because how do you decide to choose a group of people that will perfectly represent the group you are trying to really get to?

That's science. I need 2000 people to represent America (a body of 300 million), how do i pick them?

I guess you could twist Science to mean that... It makes sense, I guess.

I think I agree with NintendoPie: this seems like statistics, not science. Maybe we just have different definitions of "science"?



noname2200 said:
NintendoPie said:
Mr Khan said:

Because how do you decide to choose a group of people that will perfectly represent the group you are trying to really get to?

That's science. I need 2000 people to represent America (a body of 300 million), how do i pick them?

I guess you could twist Science to mean that... It makes sense, I guess.

I think I agree with NintendoPie: this seems like statistics, not science. Maybe we just have different definitions of "science"?

Its statistics set against sociology and demography. It's science-esque



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Mr Khan said:

Its statistics set against sociology and demography. It's science-esque

Does it have a ring of truthiness?



dsgrue3 said:
Dysgraphia applies only to handwriting. It's a spatial thing. It would not effect your ability to comprehend information, so obviously you are suffering from some other disorder...or you are lying.

Grammar*

1) No. Look it up.
2) The terms were not used prior.
3) Yes. And?

No it doesn't.

Dysgraphia primarily effects handwriting.  It also effects grammar.

I'm guessing you did a quick incomplete 5 second google search on Dysgraphia.

 

1) Look what up?  You just admitted you were wrong and that This was legal before the bill passed..  Outside which Wells Fargo offered financial servies in 1986. Banks could offer both investment and savings options WELL before GLB in 1999.  The only things they couldn't do...  Was merge banks. and Insurance underwriting.(Which they mostly still don't.)

So Wells Fargo COULD offer investment banking options... but what it COULDN'T do was buy small investment banks and merge them with wells fargo to do their investing for them.

What your mistakenly thinking of is likely the Citibank/Travelers insurance merger.   Which was illegal until the bill passed... but they let it go, because such legislation was SO overwhelmingly popular it was going to pass.   If Citibank wanted to create a travelers insurance type system from scratch?   Perfectly legal.

When GBL passed, what happened was, the big banks consolidated.  This made them "too big to fail."   That was what is disliked about the GBL.  (to people who know what the GBL did anwyay.)

 

2) Gramm Leach Bliley most certaintly was.

 

3) And... nothing.   Saving big banks = less competiton.   Espiecally when you pass laws that require mountains of lawyers to piece through that apply to everyone even though it was only the "too big" banks that were a problem.  (That and CRA exacerbation.  Which is ignored by Democrats though.)



Kasz216 said:

Dysgraphia primarily effects handwriting.  It also effects grammar.

"Affects." Not "effects."

Sorry, had to.



Oh, and for the record, the reason the last bill passed with 90 votes in the senate wasn't because the Democrats saw it was going to happen anwyay and said "oh what the hell."

Politicians care more then that.

It was because in the reconciliation they got rid of something in the Senate bill that called for the lowering of CRA requirements. This was because some people were afraid that all banks would try and meet CRA requirements so they could always be able to merge, therefore flooding the banks with bad loans which could have unintended consequences. (imagine that.)



Kasz, I don't care for anymore of your sentiments as they are quite outlandish and based upon wikipedia entries.

1) No, a couple years prior to the bill passing they allowed it because they passed other legislation allowing it. That Wells Fargo is nonsense.

2) Less Banks = more competition? What? Illogical at best.

@noname Thank you. I generally confuse those two terms. Some day, perhaps I will learn.