All units replaced, 3 years of warranty... Stop saying that like everyone who had RRod bought a new Xbox Lol stop trying to fool people you are only fooling yourself.

If there´s 4 milion Rrod Console in trash that is probably already too much, people would send console to repair, not buy a new one.

We're heading into Shooter Season, which is going to be huge for the 360. Already ramping up with BL2, but obviously that's just the tip of the iceberg. I think the 360 will make up around 800k on the PS3 before the year is out. Halo will move a lot of consoles to people who already have 360 consoles, as well.

That's just the way it goes, though. The PS3 sells steady for the year, while 360 sales come in huge spikes at the end of the year. This correlates with the 360 having a younger and more shooter-centric user-base.

No, no, no... im open minded about all things console sales. Im was just interested on what your evidence are gonna be with such a big claim...

I know but people dont really have numbers for it do they? Which makes it more of a myth than a fact...

I've seen it written that the PS3's installed base has passed that of the 360.  If that's true, then the 360's high failure rate would have to be the cause.  There is no other reason why it would have sold more units yet have less active consoles.  Still, the installed base was virtually tied, so the difference in dead/unreplaced 360s compared to dead/unreplaced PS3s would seem to be between 1 and 2m.  That means a higher number of 360s are replacements purchased at the owner's expense, but you also have to assume that some of those dead 360s were replaced with a PS3 and/or a Wii, instead.  The RRoD fiasco didn't just cost Microsoft upwards of a billion dollars, it also cost them market-share.  Fanboys might care about total units sold, without context, but I have no doubt Microsoft would rather have finished in "3rd place" rather than have had the RRoD event take place.

UGH. It's you.

Please don't reply to me. I see what you're trying to do. Grow up.

You mean like never repaired? And still playing.. I know some one lol. 

Bottom line: Its all pure speculations. Unless we have TRUE numbers then we will have closure.

Were crossing the line of WHAT IFS again, which I hate. What if Ps3 sold at 499 instead of 599? What if MS made XBL free? What if RROD never happened?  

Edit: you also forgot to put the (People were scared to buy a faulty hardware) factor. 

I highly doubt that. It was their early lead in console sales and a year head start that secured them many  3rd party games which is what helped them gain market share. Had they not released a year ahead of sony that would not of happened and this would be a very different gen. If anything the RRoD only really hurt them in Japan where quality is really important in electronics. In the US it didn't really matter as qualtiy is not as important as price and with the 3 year warranty it didn't really matter if yours broke as you could get it replaced.

I'm not talking about when they launched, I'm talking about total number of units sold.  If RRoD had never happened then it would not have impacted sales in the first couple of years much at all.  They already had a good start by the time people really became aware of a manufacturing problem.

It would appear, because of the disparity between consoles sold and active consoles, that a lot of people bought their own replacements.  Why, I don't know, though I would bet that a significant number simply assumed their 360 was out of warranty.  If not that, then possibly a lot of consoles died after their warranty expired.  In both cases, the boost to console sales would have been at least three years after the 360 debuted.  In that case, RRoD being a thing would not have impacted the 360's early lead at all, only the cumulative total.

I would love to know how many people have bought replacement 360s out of their own pocket.  Regardless, we can still assume that it's a much higher rate than the other consoles.  My point was simply that Microsoft would rather RRoD not have happened than to have sold a few hundered thousand extra replacement consoles.