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M.U.G.E.N said:
Persistantthug said:
M.U.G.E.N said:
Persistantthug said:
M.U.G.E.N said:
teigaga said:
I think most people are thinking 2014, but am I the only one thinking late 2014?



oh I'm pretty sure it won't go for end of 2014..spring 2014 launch date..at least for US/EU


And no...

 

All Major Home consoles since Dreamcast always launch in America during the holidays (Sept - Dec).

Like I said before.....no exceptions to this rule.

lol ok sure

Well,

It's not like I'm making this up...Here, take a look:

 

DREAMCAST - Sept 1999

PS2 - Oct 2000

GAMECUBE - NOV 2001

XBOX 1 - NOV 2001

 

XBOX 360 - NOV 2005

PS3 - NOV 2006

WII - NOV 2006

 

WII U - NOV 2012

 

Like I said, No exceptions

Are those all global launches? Cuz I'm thinking they will launch ps4 in Jp next year as I mentioned above

 

either way..this is a business. Not a tradition. Depending on various factors they could launch any time they deem appropriate


No, these were not global launches....just the American launches.

 

However, it should be noted and understood that Neither, Sony, Nintendo, and obviously not Microsoft.....none of them launch in Japan first anymore....rather, they now launch close....such as with the PS3 having November 2006 in Japan and America.

did you notice the Wii U is launching first in America (NOV) and Japan in December?

This is because America is the #1 buyer of Home game consoles and must be catered to with priority.

Those year staggerings that we used to have like with the Dreamcast and PS2.....those days are pretty long gone now.

So yes....you're right.....it is business......it just may not be the business you were hoping for, possibly.



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Why is it that you put "Hope & Dream" in the title as if those people's predictions are only based on desire rather than their own genuine reasoning?



Jay520 said:
Why is it that you put "Hope & Dream" in the title as if those people's predictions are only based on desire rather than their own genuine reasoning?


Because at this point, it's not practical or likely.

 

TGS is over and 2012 is done....Bring on 2013....basically.

 

When something's not practical or likely, and you still are clinging to a remote possibility....that's a bonafide "Hopes & Dreams" sentiment.



Persistantthug said:


No, these were not global launches....just the American launches.

 

However, it should be noted and understood that Neither, Sony, Nintendo, and obviously not Microsoft.....none of them launch in Japan first anymore....rather, they now launch close....such as with the PS3 having November 2006 in Japan and America.

did you notice the Wii U is launching first in America (NOV) and Japan in December?

This is because America is the #1 buyer of Home game consoles and must be catered to with priority.

Those year staggerings that we used to have like with the Dreamcast and PS2.....those days are pretty long gone now.

So yes....you're right.....it is business......it just may not be the business you were hoping for, possibly.

dude come on now....sony just launched vita first in Japan and NA/EU followed a few months later. There are many factors that go into making this choice. Historical data means jack basically. Currently Sony's biggest market is not the NA...it definitely is not it's most important market. If they are gonna launch it based on just that factor alone we will see a EU launch first..

again...they will most likely launch in one region..I think it will be Jp..it definitely could be another region as well.

Btw I want some clarification..what is this hope and dream business? I don't recall a single person even remotely hinting at the possibility of sony revealing ps4 this year....many are not sure if it will come next year either. I don't see people having high hopes about it because the ps3 line up is stellar in 2013. Fans are well served and they can wait. Most comments have been about wanting to see what the ps4 is capable of hence the hype around E3 next year and so on./

so who exactly are you talking to? Superchunk?



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Persistantthug said:
Jay520 said:
Why is it that you put "Hope & Dream" in the title as if those people's predictions are only based on desire rather than their own genuine reasoning?


Because at this point, it's not practical or likely.

When something's not practical or likely, and you still are clinging to a remote possibility....that's a bonafide "Hopes & Dreams" sentiment.


You're making some leaps there buddy

Just because something is not likely does not mean it's a remote possibility. In the case of the PS4 releasing in 2013, it may not seem likely at this point, but it would be surprising if Sony announced the PS4 sometime after this Christmas, for a 2013 release.



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M.U.G.E.N said:
Persistantthug said:


No, these were not global launches....just the American launches.

 

However, it should be noted and understood that Neither, Sony, Nintendo, and obviously not Microsoft.....none of them launch in Japan first anymore....rather, they now launch close....such as with the PS3 having November 2006 in Japan and America.

did you notice the Wii U is launching first in America (NOV) and Japan in December?

This is because America is the #1 buyer of Home game consoles and must be catered to with priority.

Those year staggerings that we used to have like with the Dreamcast and PS2.....those days are pretty long gone now.

So yes....you're right.....it is business......it just may not be the business you were hoping for, possibly.

dude come on now....sony just launched vita first in Japan and NA/EU followed a few months later. There are many factors that go into making this choice. Historical data means jack basically. Currently Sony's biggest market is not the NA...it definitely is not it's most important market. If they are gonna launch it based on just that factor alone we will see a EU launch first..

again...they will most likely launch in one region..I think it will be Jp..it definitely could be another region as well.

Btw I want some clarification..what is this hope and dream business? I don't recall a single person even remotely hinting at the possibility of sony revealing ps4 this year....many are not sure if it will come next year either. I don't see people having high hopes about it because the ps3 line up is stellar in 2013. Fans are well served and they can wait. Most comments have been about wanting to see what the ps4 is capable of hence the hype around E3 next year and so on./

so who exactly are you talking to? Superchunk?

 

I'm aware VITA launches in Japan first....as well as Gameboys (I still call them that).

But we aren't talking handhelds here.....Home Consoles.

And with that, Japan doesn't really like Home Consoles anymore....not like they used to anyways.  America is where the home consoles are sold now.....that where priority is now.

 

 

But uh,

Superchunk.....speak of the devil.....where is he?  I'm expecting him.  lol



Very likely... PS3 was announced on May 2005 and released on November 2006. PS2 was the same.
PS4 most likely will follow suit. May-June 2013 (e3) announcement, release on the holidays of 2014.

That's my guess, at least.



Jay520 said:
Persistantthug said:
Jay520 said:
Why is it that you put "Hope & Dream" in the title as if those people's predictions are only based on desire rather than their own genuine reasoning?


Because at this point, it's not practical or likely.

When something's not practical or likely, and you still are clinging to a remote possibility....that's a bonafide "Hopes & Dreams" sentiment.


You're making some leaps there buddy

Just because something is not likely does not mean it's a remote possibility. In the case of the PS4 releasing in 2013, it may not seem likely at this point, but it would be surprising if Sony announced the PS4 sometime after this Christmas, for a 2013 release.


Surprising?

As in Incredible?  As in Unbelievable?

 

Yes.

I just prefer to call it "Hopes & Dreams".

Potato Pototo



Persistantthug said:
Jay520 said:


You're making some leaps there buddy

Just because something is not likely does not mean it's a remote possibility. In the case of the PS4 releasing in 2013, it may not seem likely at this point, but it would NOT be surprising if Sony announced the PS4 sometime after this Christmas, for a 2013 release.


Surprising?

As in Incredible?  As in Unbelievable?

Yes.

I just prefer to call it "Hopes & Dreams".

Potato Pototo


Ah, dammit, I meant to say NOT surprising

So, if Sony announced the PS4, in Dec/Jan for a 2013 release, it would not be surprising.

The way I see it, there's a 40% chance it'll release in 2013. I still consider it a reasonable possibility, not a remote possibility. 



Imo, one thing's for sure... it'll launch on a holiday. I can even see a holiday 2013 release (in %, I give it 30%), but not on any other month before october in 2014.