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Forums - Nintendo - Wii U GPU Type CONFIRMED! Custom AMD E6760!

Baron on 23 September 2012
HoloDust said:

Look further and deeper and you might be surprised - I have not looked at just 4850/620 and 6570/620 combos , but with other CPUs as well, and that's exactly why I suggested for people to look not at P scores, but GPU scores.

As for e6760m not being downclocked 6570 - check your facts and compare e6760 it against it (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_AMD_graphics_processing_units#Northern_Islands_.28HD_6xxx.29_series) and 6550M (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_AMD_graphics_processing_units#Radeon_HD_6xxxM_Series) before you start throwing at random your "end of stories" - 4850 is at every spec more powerful than e6760 by factor of 1.6x and more.

What point is there to look at a 4850 combo with other cpu's? We have no idea what kind of scores an e6760 can do with those cpu's. We've only got the one benchmark result with an Athlon 620. If you have more benchmarks with an e6760, please show me. I would love to see them.

As for the e6760 not being a downclocked 6570 you better check your facts first.
First of all it's a 67xx cpu. So that means a 1040 million transistor, 166mm2 die size Juniper chip. Not the smaller Turks chip. So there is that.
Second of all, it's an embedded solution. That alone has all kinds of advantages over a regular graphics card that slots into a pci express slot.

So yes, on paper the 4850 is a lot more powerful than the e6760. Realtime performance is an entirely different thing however. As evident by the e6760's score of 5870 in Vantage. Which is not even 1000 points lower than the 4850 with a 50% more powerful cpu. So, yes, end of story...

 

... Unless you have more benchmarks of the e6760 that show that the e6760 doesn't benefit from a more powerful cpu.



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Mr Khan on 23 September 2012
TheBardsSong said:
lilbroex said:
TheBardsSong said:
This would be a lot easier if Nintendo just came out and confirmed all the specs. I think the fact they don't want to talk about it tells us it might not be what we hope.


Its something they have done for over a decade. It tells us nothing other than that they are stilling doing things that same way.


I remember having concrete facts on what the NES, SNES, N64, Gamecube, and even Wii's CPUs were clocked at.

Wii's was only ever leaked by developers.

This seems like believable news to me; a clear step up from PS360 but nothing too ambitious



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rudyrsr8 on 23 September 2012

I would like to thank everyone who posted on here an enjoying funny read of back and forth throughout. :)



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DieAppleDie on 23 September 2012

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your are evil... ;)



TheBardsSong on 23 September 2012
Mr Khan said:
TheBardsSong said:
lilbroex said:
TheBardsSong said:
This would be a lot easier if Nintendo just came out and confirmed all the specs. I think the fact they don't want to talk about it tells us it might not be what we hope.


Its something they have done for over a decade. It tells us nothing other than that they are stilling doing things that same way.


I remember having concrete facts on what the NES, SNES, N64, Gamecube, and even Wii's CPUs were clocked at.

Wii's was only ever leaked by developers.

This seems like believable news to me; a clear step up from PS360 but nothing too ambitious


That really worries me more than anything. The one time the specs weren't worth bragging about they opted to hide them from the public, and they're doing that again with Wii U now.



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FrancisNobleman on 23 September 2012

Can people actually confirm for sure which graphics card it is by stripping down a retail Wii U ?



HoloDust on 23 September 2012
Baron said:
HoloDust said:
 

Look further and deeper and you might be surprised - I have not looked at just 4850/620 and 6570/620 combos , but with other CPUs as well, and that's exactly why I suggested for people to look not at P scores, but GPU scores.

As for e6760m not being downclocked 6570 - check your facts and compare e6760 it against it (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_AMD_graphics_processing_units#Northern_Islands_.28HD_6xxx.29_series) and 6650M (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_AMD_graphics_processing_units#Radeon_HD_6xxxM_Series) before you start throwing at random your "end of stories" - 4850 is at every spec more powerful than e6760 by factor of 1.6x and more.

What point is there to look at a 4850 combo with other cpu's? We have no idea what kind of scores an e6760 can do with those cpu's. We've only got the one benchmark result with an Athlon 620. If you have more benchmarks with an e6760, please show me. I would love to see them.

As for the e6760 not being a downclocked 6570 you better check your facts first.
First of all it's a 67xx cpu. So that means a 1040 million transistor, 166mm2 die size Juniper chip. Not the smaller Turks chip. So there is that.
Second of all, it's an embedded solution. That alone has all kinds of advantages over a regular graphics card that slots into a pci express slot.

So yes, on paper the 4850 is a lot more powerful than the e6760. Realtime performance is an entirely different thing however. As evident by the e6760's score of 5870 in Vantage. Which is not even 1000 points lower than the 4850 with a 50% more powerful cpu. So, yes, end of story...

 

... Unless you have more benchmarks of the e6760 that show that the e6760 doesn't benefit from a more powerful cpu.


I just love when people don't want to see to reason - again e6760 is Turks based, it has exactly same clock as 6650M, so slightly downclocked 6570. Check this and see for yourself, and than compare it to links I provided for those 2 GPUs:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4307/amd-launches-radeon-e6760

Now, have we established what e6760 is? Good. So if your interested in searching for more benchmarks please do, you know what to look for (6570 GDDR5) and that will give you pretty good info of what e6760 is capable of.



Mr Khan on 23 September 2012
TheBardsSong said:
Mr Khan said:
TheBardsSong said:


I remember having concrete facts on what the NES, SNES, N64, Gamecube, and even Wii's CPUs were clocked at.

Wii's was only ever leaked by developers.

This seems like believable news to me; a clear step up from PS360 but nothing too ambitious


That really worries me more than anything. The one time the specs weren't worth bragging about they opted to hide them from the public, and they're doing that again with Wii U now.

afaik, that's just new policy. I don't think 3DS's was ever officially unveiled either.



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Baron on 23 September 2012
HoloDust said:


I just love when people don't want to see to reason - again e6760 is Turks based, it has exactly same clock as 6650M, so slightly downclocked 6570. Check this and see for yourself, and than compare it to links I provided for those 2 GPUs:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4307/amd-launches-radeon-e6760

Now, have we established what e6760 is? Good. So if your interested in searching for more benchmarks please do, you know what to look for (6570 GDDR5) and that will give you pretty good info of what e6760 is capable of.


The AMD rep said it's a 6700 cpu so either the AMD rep is lying or Anandtech just assumed it's a Turks based on the 480 shader processors. I don't care either way because it's the performance that counts, not the chip size.

 

Anyways, so you're saying the e6760 is basically a 6570... Then how come the 6570 scores a lot lower than the e6760 in Vantage?



HoloDust on 23 September 2012

Here are some benchmarks for 6750M that has all the specs as e6760 (except for 100MHz higher memory clock) - don't be fooled, it's still Turks based GPU, it's usual mobility trick that both AMD and nVidia are using:

http://forum.notebookreview.com/gaming-software-graphics-cards/644261-amd-radeon-hd-6750m-benchmarking-results.html

http://compare-processors.com/rank/notebookgraphics.php?AMD+Radeon+HD+6750M=on&cp=Compare

If anyone finds more, please post