Why doesn't Pikmin have a clear generational leap? Because there is no need to improve graphics for the game beyond its current level ...

Looking at the following games, please tell me which one is showing that it is suffering from a lack of processing power:

Pikmin 3:

Rayman Legends:

The Wonderful 100

New Super Mario Bros U

These games don't show a generational improvement because increased graphical processing power is meaningless to games that use art styles similar to this.

No one wants Mario to look like this:

The only exclusive Wii U game that has a reason to see a graphical improvement is ZombiU which switched mid-development of the kind of game it was going to be; and yet it still looks roughly on par with most of the best looking first person shooters on the XBox 360 and PS3

You need to get used to the fact that 90% of games released from this point forward will probably see no significant graphical improvements over what was possible on the HD consoles because it is meaningless to the game, remarkably expensive, and time consuming.

Read what I just wrote :

What? No, I told happysquirrel I would have to post the Kameo pictures in here to show how GOOD the 360 launch game, Kameo, looked, as he was using a picture of a shoddy looking 360 launch title in an attempt to paint the rest of the launch titles as looking that shoddy.  

Nothing to do with the crap you're trying to pin on me. Try again. 

No what you should have done was post a late gen Xbox game and compare it to a launch 360 game obviously.

Ok, so you DONT have sources and were bullshitting? 

Remember, the basis tot his argument is that you originally said: 

The two launch games for the XBox 360 that looked better than XBox games were Kameo and Perfect Dark, two games that began development before the XBox was released and were nearly completed before they were switched development to the XBox 360. The last 18 months of development of these games was primarily on improving their visuals.

As to why Kameo looked so good, and Wii U launch titles aren't showing the same generational lep.

So you were just lying about Kameo? 

Any answer to this? No? 

Lol did you not post those pics and compared them? You posted that pic of the unreleased Kameo correct? You then posted that pic of the released Kameo on the 360 correct? So yes what I am saying about you is correct, you are cherry picking to make the leap look large.

Read what I wrote.

I told happysquirrel I would have to post the Kameo pictures (the 360 screenshots) in here to show how GOOD the 360 launch game, Kameo, looked, as he was using a picture of a shoddy looking 360 launch title in an attempt to paint the rest of the launch titles as looking that shoddy. 

He was trying to make 360 launch games look bad with a shitty screenshot.

I said I didn't want him to make me post Kameo shots to prove how good they looked at launch, his picture was clearly unrepresentative.

Please stop trying to accuse me of something I am not doing. I'm trying to have an argument with happysquirrel. 

Enough.

Powerful enough.

I know about your argument with happysquirrel. I was accusing you of doing this before. I guess I shouldn't have responsed to your and happysquirrel's post tree. That's why you think I'm accusing you of doing this in your argument with happysquirrel. What I am doing though is accusing you of cherry picking. Why not compare late gen Xbox to 360 launch games instead of a unreleased Xbox game to 360 launch game.

Kain
i know you would use those games as an example, sincerely, if i could post pics myself, i would post a pice from GT4 and one from PGR3 and you wouldnt note many difference
actually i played PGR3 at launch on a 360 available at my my local store and, while i thought it had great grafix, it never was showing the power of the 360 beyond res., a little of texture detail, blur effect and......well that was pretty much
about Condemned, i will say that it was even a lesser impressive game, maybe because i played it on 360 without HDMI cable (the first one released, remember?), but it looked like a good Xbox game with improved lighthing and nothing more, suffered from the same issues that previous gen games, just because of the cable....
and thats my point, if you took the HDMI cable out of the ecuation, the Xbox360 games at launch wouldnt show much difference from best looking games from previous gen

I will gladly do that in the other thread. Kameo is still a significant and noticeable generational leap over original xbox games. 

I believe even the OP in that other thread conceeded that I was completely correct about Kameo on 360 in that regard