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rogermoore on 24 September 2012

Nope. This is tottally non-sense. Sure Sony has (had) some great franchises, but saying that they´re better than Nintendo franchises is, at most, only personal preference. The videogame market doesn´t agree with that. Just take a look of the 20 best seller games of all time (here in VGChartz)... 19 games are from Nintendo and NONE are from Sony.
If Nintendo´s games sell better it´s sure to say that they have their qualities and merits of engaging more gamers than Sony´s productions. And that has nothing to do with adult/mature content....
And this talk of "Nintendo only makes games for kids" is kind of old and dumb. Nintendo games are appreciated by gamers of every age and taste. Nintendo games are like Disney movies: they´re something to appreciate and enjoy, not aimed to pre-teens pretending to be teens or teens pretend to be adults.



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happydolphin on 24 September 2012
rogermoore said:
Nope. This is tottally non-sense. Sure Sony has (had) some great franchises, but saying that they´re better than Nintendo franchises is, at most, only personal preference. The videogame market doesn´t agree with that. Just take a look of the 20 best seller games of all time (here in VGChartz)... 19 games are from Nintendo and NONE are from Sony.
If Nintendo´s games sell better it´s sure to say that they have their qualities and merits of engaging more gamers than Sony´s productions. And that has nothing to do with adult/mature content....
And this talk of "Nintendo only makes games for kids" is kind of old and dumb. Nintendo games are appreciated by gamers of every age and taste. Nintendo games are like Disney movies: they´re something to appreciate and enjoy, not aimed to pre-teens pretending to be teens or teens pretend to be adults.

My first question. Have you played Shadow of the Colossus? Have you played Uncharted? I need to get that out of the way.

Second. Where in this thread or in OP did I say Sony's IPs were better than Nintendo's? You don't seem to realize what I'm actually arguing.

Lastly, Nintendo is very unlike Disney, in that Disney can capture the attention of ALL ages: Adults, kids and teens. Nintendo struggled at captivating teens and a certain slice of the adult male segment this generation.



happydolphin on 24 September 2012
RolStoppable said:

The $5 billion loss isn't a cop-out at all. It highlights how strong the PlayStation brand really was this generation. It couldn't operate anywhere close to a profit and it's still stuck in third place. Sony was lucky to get bailed out by third parties.

Cell wasn't required to make good graphics. So 600$ was a mistake. That is something Nintendo should not copy. This doesn't discredit Sony's qualities, only highlights their weaknesses.



ninetailschris on 24 September 2012
BasilZero said:
ninetailschris said:
phenom08 said:
ninetailschris said:
To me it seems Sony fans try to justify there system by holding on to past.

Bring up sales. It's irrelevant because of ps1/ps2 sales were better even though it was mostly 3rd party.

Bring up it's third in sales bring up wii isn't on ps1/2 level of sales,

What is up with this adult crap?

Adults play all type of games even women who he doesn't even consider adults apparently. Sony fans admit that wii x game is hardcore yet it's still casual system. Xbox360 became a casual system because of kinect? Where do Sony fans get this stuff? Apparently if you market to bigger audience your casual on now.

PS3 was a failed. PS3 failed at trying to get bigger audience and actual lost theirs. PS3 failed a handheld.Ps3 can't even beat n64 game sales. Move on Sony isn't anywhere near as power that's a fact.

It's sad really, you have Sony fans saying Ninty should copy them. People ask them why would they copy a company that is currently in last? All they can bring up is how lucky Sony was in the past. There's a reason for why the PS3, PSP, PS Vita weren't able to accomplish such feats. Sony can no longer be bailed out by 3rd parties so now they are getting their ass handed to them. Sony's most current platform is performing terrible and yet they still believe Sony is on top of the world. Another posters brings up how Sony makes games that they love as if I give a crap and says it like Ninty should start doing things like that even though those Sony games sell like crap. If Ninty wanted a game to sell like crap they would've repeated Wii Music or copied Sony's entire library of games.

What about wanting Nintendo to copy a game like Shadow of Colossus? Game that sold 1.14 on the ps2. The collection only getting .75 on ps3. Who in there right mind would want to copy that? Where did these guys get there logic from?  Kirby games outsell that game.

So using this logic, Nintendo should close Monolith Soft since Xenoblade sold less than SotC am I right? lol

Um it's one thing to say you want them to make a game like that but to say they should in order to do great is a different story.

Xenoblade was a great game but it isn't a system seller or going to boost the wii numbers greatly.

The fact is nobody but the internet few select even know the game exist. If I was business man that wouldn't be what i'm going to work for.

You can have great games that sell great for example Ocarina of Time or Mario Galaxy both of which sold better than the game and got more awards and got a higher rating.

Just because you enjoy a game doesn't mean it is something company must copy to do good. That's a fact.



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ninetailschris on 24 September 2012
happydolphin said:
rogermoore said:
Nope. This is tottally non-sense. Sure Sony has (had) some great franchises, but saying that they´re better than Nintendo franchises is, at most, only personal preference. The videogame market doesn´t agree with that. Just take a look of the 20 best seller games of all time (here in VGChartz)... 19 games are from Nintendo and NONE are from Sony.
If Nintendo´s games sell better it´s sure to say that they have their qualities and merits of engaging more gamers than Sony´s productions. And that has nothing to do with adult/mature content....
And this talk of "Nintendo only makes games for kids" is kind of old and dumb. Nintendo games are appreciated by gamers of every age and taste. Nintendo games are like Disney movies: they´re something to appreciate and enjoy, not aimed to pre-teens pretending to be teens or teens pretend to be adults.

My first question. Have you played Shadow of the Colossus? Have you played Uncharted? I need to get that out of the way.

Second. Where in this thread or in OP did I say Sony's IPs were better than Nintendo's? You don't seem to realize what I'm actually arguing.

Lastly, Nintendo is very unlike Disney, in that Disney can capture the attention of ALL ages: Adults, kids and teens. Nintendo struggled at captivating teens and a certain slice of the adult male segment this generation.


Actual I have played those games one of which i hated Uncharted 3.

SOTC is good game but wasn't even game of the generation. I wouldn't even nput it in my top 10 games because there way to many games better than that.

The game has a 91 on metacrtic and 87 by [users] it not the greatest game ever don't pretend like we all agree that it's even close.  There so many games that get praised as amazing it's nothing special to hear anymore.

It was good game but nothing that Nintendo is missing as I would rather them make games like that and Nintendo do it's own thing that is great.



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happydolphin on 24 September 2012
ninetailschris said:

Actual I have played those games one of which i hated Uncharted 3.

SOTC is good game but wasn't even game of the generation. I wouldn't even nput it in my top 10 games because there way to many games better than that.

The game has a 91 on metacrtic and 87 by [users] it not the greatest game ever don't pretend like we all agree that it's even close.  There so many games that get praised as amazing it's nothing special to hear anymore.

It was good game but nothing that Nintendo is missing as I would rather them make games like that and Nintendo do it's own thing that is great.

2 Questions for you:

1) Do you think that Nintendo caters to the market that enjoys SotC?

2) Have you played OoT and did you like it? Similarly have you played  Super Metroid and the NES titles I listed in OP?



ninetailschris on 24 September 2012
happydolphin said:
ninetailschris said:

Actual I have played those games one of which i hated Uncharted 3.

SOTC is good game but wasn't even game of the generation. I wouldn't even nput it in my top 10 games because there way to many games better than that.

The game has a 91 on metacrtic and 87 by [users] it not the greatest game ever don't pretend like we all agree that it's even close.  There so many games that get praised as amazing it's nothing special to hear anymore.

It was good game but nothing that Nintendo is missing as I would rather them make games like that and Nintendo do it's own thing that is great.

2 Questions for you:

1) Do you think that Nintendo caters to the market that enjoys SotC?

2) Have you played OoT and did you like it? Similarly have you played  Super Metroid and the NES titles I listed in OP?


1.) What is the "market" because the game seemed to me to made for Dragon Dogma market where you kill giant creatures(not a rpg though) with a dark feel . Who is this market of 1.14 anyway a bunch of people who randomly bought the game ? I can't think anything with 1.14 is really a market hell the collection only .74 so is this market even worth talking about? I bet 99% of the people who bought a playstation 2 never bought it for that game or just picked up to see what it was about. Does this "market" even exist with the lack of sales for the collection?

2).OOT  favorite game ever. Super Metroid I played and enjoyed. I played most if not all of them.



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happydolphin on 24 September 2012
ninetailschris said:

1.) What is the "market" because the game seemed to me to made for Dragon Dogma market where you kill giant creatures(not a rpg though) with a dark feel . Who is this market of 1.14 anyway a bunch of people who randomly bought the game ? I can't think anything with 1.14 is really a market hell the collection only .74 so is this market even worth talking about? I bet 99% of the people who bought a playstation 2 never bought it for that game or just picked up to see what it was about. Does this "market" even exist with the lack of sales for the collection?

2).OOT  favorite game ever. Super Metroid I played and enjoyed. I played most if not all of them.

Okay, thanks for answering.

1) I would have to compare Dragon Dogma to SotC, but sadly I haven't played Dragon's Dogma. However I have played God of War. Would that be an OK comparison? If yes, I'll get back to your points using GoW instead of DD. Let me know.

2) Okay, same here. I love those two games. Is there something special about those two games, above and beyond everything else, if you could pick 3 things that you really really liked about those two games, what would it be.

3) What do you think makes OoT a better game than Mario Galaxy, if that's possible.



happydolphin on 24 September 2012
spurgeonryan said:
I was going to make this a thread to mock this thread but decided to put it here. Sony and Microsoft SHOULD Copy Nintendo. People should not be mad or surprised if they do. Fore 30 years Nintendo has been pretty much King of the gaming world with a few hiccups here and there. Why shouldn't the HD twins emulate Nintendo? They should copy them and watch them whenever they can because Nintendo is always innovating. They may not be throwing out a bazillion FPS every year, but they are innovative. After the Wii and DS crazy sales Microsoft and Sony would be out of their minds to not take some notes. That is what should happen.


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Kresnik on 24 September 2012
phenom08 said:

It truly is sad at how much Sony fans believe they know. Why exactly should Ninty make a game like that? Because a bunch of Sony fans want something like that out of them, while the Ninty fans don't. So why should they please you over me, a loyal fan? You make absolutely no sense what so ever. It's like me asking for Sony to make games like Metriod even though I don't even support them. They make what their FANS want, not what some random internet dwellers wants lol. I don't care what you think is quality, millions don't think so, so who cares about how much you like SOTC. Wow it truly is sad how much you guys try lol. Let it go, let Sony be Sony and Ninty be Ninty. I think Ninty has it right, those blue lines are the tallest on the front page for a reason. They have a massive fanbase to please, they don't waste time pleasing Sony fans lol. That's Sony's job. ;)


@ Bold, that's exactly the point.  Why wouldn't Nintendo want to sell more consoles?  If a 'bunch' of Sony fans like these kind of cinematic experiences - why shouldn't Nintendo at least have a go at making them?

@ italics, you are but one Nintendo fan.  Even with the vast number of them (us?) on this site, it's still not representative.

The point HappyD was making in his OP wasn't that Nintendo should stop making what they're making and start making what Sony is making, it's that they should look into diversifying and trying something different while continuing what they're doing.  How you're still missing that after nearly 30 pages of replies I have no idea.

If your answer is "No, they shouldn't", then why don't you just say that and leave the thread, instead of getting into these long-winded debates?



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