HappySqurriel said:
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http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/
There you go. About as honest and accurate as you can get.
After this election, Romney will be compared to... | |||
John Kerry, poor politici... | 57 | 67.06% | |
Ronald Reagan, took out a... | 7 | 8.24% | |
Somebody else... | 18 | 21.18% | |
Total: | 82 |
HappySqurriel said:
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http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/
There you go. About as honest and accurate as you can get.
HappySqurriel said: I agree, but I would like to see the results of more honest polling ... |
Me too. It's strange that Romney has been consistently leading with independents by varying degrees from a few points to a fucking landslide and GOP voter identification is at an all time high, and he's still behind. I'm reluctant to believe that polls are intentionally being skewed, but something isn't clicking.
Wait I thought John Mccain was the last Kerry. Title should be "Romney will be the next MCcain." More historically accurate.
So the fate of the US will be decided by the citizens of Florida ?
chocoloco said: Wait I thought John Mccain was the last Kerry. Title should be "Romney will be the next MCcain." More historically accurate. |
McCain's problems were distinct from Kerry's. He shares some of Romney's problems, namely that he had to radicalize himself in pursuit of the Republican nomination, and thus was stuck in some sort of political no-man's-land when election time came about. Kerry's problem was that he was (or at least was perceived as being) kinda wishy-washy, whereas McCain made a real name for himself with successful bipartisan efforts that he could have easily used to make himself highly appealing, but he was backed into a corner by the far right, and then trapped like a deer in the headlights the rest of the cycle, unable to effectively fight back.
Monster Hunter: pissing me off since 2010.
nuckles87 said: Romney is just really, really bad at campaigning and not making himself look like an entitled jerk.
This is what people always do when their candidate is losing: blame the pollsters. There is no oversampling going on towards the democrats in these polls. Polling these days is an incredibly exact science that relies heavily on past trends, and typically has a very solid track record. I encourage you to just follow www.fivethirtyeight.com. They are the best polling aggregate out there, and where dead on in both 2008 and 2010. They are going to be dead on in 2012 to. |
This is pretty much the best summary of this election I have seen.
Romney is an irritating idiot. Obama is the other candidate who has some personality. (Not to mention the Democrats have better policies and a plan)
So hyped for Rome 2: Total War
chocoloco said: Wait I thought John Mccain was the last Kerry. Title should be "Romney will be the next MCcain." More historically accurate. |
Naw, McCain's ultimate mistake was choosing a shit VP. After Palin, things went straight downhill. Sexy woman, terrible politician.
T.Rexington said:
Naw, McCain's ultimate mistake was choosing a shit VP. After Palin, things went straight downhill. Sexy woman, terrible politician. |
Palin did not help, but for different reasons than one might think. She was a terrible politician, but moreover it was apparent to most that choosing her was a terrible choice, and reflected poorly on McCain's decisionmaking ability. It was merely a part of the further theme that 2008 McCain did not seem to really know what he was doing, that is who he was or what he wanted to be.
Monster Hunter: pissing me off since 2010.
Mr Khan said: McCain's problems were distinct from Kerry's. He shares some of Romney's problems, namely that he had to radicalize himself in pursuit of the Republican nomination, and thus was stuck in some sort of political no-man's-land when election time came about. Kerry's problem was that he was (or at least was perceived as being) kinda wishy-washy, whereas McCain made a real name for himself with successful bipartisan efforts that he could have easily used to make himself highly appealing, but he was backed into a corner by the far right, and then trapped like a deer in the headlights the rest of the cycle, unable to effectively fight back. |
That's the threadbare old narrative that's trotted out every time. "X had to move to the far, far, far right, and that's why he lost." But it isn't the case. McCain scarcely moved in the primaries, save adopting a more enforcement-first approach to pursuing immigration reform, and he certainly didn't go hard right. He lost in part because he had no real vision to offer and so couldn't be a credible alternative to Obama, and in part because after eight years of Bush the Republican Party was an absolute shambles and it should have been the Democrats' election to lose anyway, but mostly he lost because Barack Obama was the fucking Kwisatz Haderach.
Mr Khan said:
McCain's problems were distinct from Kerry's. He shares some of Romney's problems, namely that he had to radicalize himself in pursuit of the Republican nomination, and thus was stuck in some sort of political no-man's-land when election time came about. Kerry's problem was that he was (or at least was perceived as being) kinda wishy-washy, whereas McCain made a real name for himself with successful bipartisan efforts that he could have easily used to make himself highly appealing, but he was backed into a corner by the far right, and then trapped like a deer in the headlights the rest of the cycle, unable to effectively fight back. |
This is all true but his biggest problem was that he ran after Bush. And against the new messiah.
Time for hype