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wfz said:

We do? Maybe we used to... Everyone I know is having an extremely hard time trying to pay bills and just get by without going into debt... Not to mention that the youth is always complaining about not being able to find jobs, and the whole "need experience for job, need job for experience" thing. I think that's at least in great part due to their own entitlement issues as I've seen my sister, who always complains about this, turn down many job offerings that just weren't her ideal dream job. 

But is it really worse there in the UK and other parts of Europe? God damn... :( 

Yeah, exactly the same situation in the UK, in terms of decline... but you guys started from a higher point. Unfortunately, to top everything off, our rate of inflation is higher, too (so our gas and food prices are increasing even faster than yours).

Of course, it's even worse in other parts of the world - Spain, Portugal, Greece, Italy, for example.



SamuelRSmith said:
wfz said:

We do? Maybe we used to... Everyone I know is having an extremely hard time trying to pay bills and just get by without going into debt... Not to mention that the youth is always complaining about not being able to find jobs, and the whole "need experience for job, need job for experience" thing. I think that's at least in great part due to their own entitlement issues as I've seen my sister, who always complains about this, turn down many job offerings that just weren't her ideal dream job. 

But is it really worse there in the UK and other parts of Europe? God damn... :( 

Yeah, exactly the same situation in the UK, in terms of decline... but you guys started from a higher point. Unfortunately, to top everything off, our rate of inflation is higher, too (so our gas and food prices are increasing even faster than yours).

Of course, it's even worse in other parts of the world - Spain, Portugal, Greece, Italy, for example.





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kowenicki said:
SamuelRSmith said:
wfz said:
SamuelRSmith said:
wfz said:
Can someone fill me in on why there's so much hate? Minimum wage in USA = $7.25 I believe. UK = 6.00 (roughly, in their currency).

Prices in the UK already include the high vat tax, so if anything it's more expensive in the USA for our respective currency. Minimum wage is very close, so I don't see how this makes a big difference in the end of the day for each respective citizen. I work X hours to get 350 in my currency to purchase the console, and you work almost the exact same X hours to receive enough of your currency to purchase the console.


Americans earn more, are taxed less, and prices are lower... minimum wage means nothing, only 5.2% of all hourly paid workers are paid Federal minimum wage... half of those are under 25 (meaning that they still live at home with their parents, don't have families, etc... it's usually just pure disposable income for booze and games).

You bring up good points, and I'll admit I'm not aware of the differences in income distribution between the two countries, but are prices still lower when you consider that it's USA + no tax against UK + tax? If you took out the UK tax that's automatically included, would it still be higher compared to their average income?

A three week trip to Florida is more affordable than a week in London... and we live abut an hour away from London.

A woman I was talking to yesterday was complaining about the cost of rent in Boston... her rent was lower than mine in Canterbury, and she had bills included, and some killer view... I was in the middle of a council estate (and bills not included).

Americans have the highest standard of living in the world (minus some minor countries with really small populations and lots of oil/or one of those countries used as an offshore bank), and that's because they have the highest wages, and pay the lowest prices.


Last time I took the family to Florida it cost me about £6k all in for 3 of us. I go to London very often and stay in very good hotels (ironically I am typing this whilst sat on the Virgin pendolino to Euston). I think you may be exaggerating slightly, but yes the cost of living here is far higher than the states.

Well, our trips to Florida are often in the £12-£20k range (5 people, 3 weeks). The real difference is in the nature of the costs. When you travel to Florida, most of the costs can be handled before you go - flights, accommodation, transport, that sort of thing. In London, the high costs come when you get there - food, attractions, etc. In terms of cash flow, London is harder.

But, yes, I am exaggerating... the fact that such comparisons aren't laughable, however, says a lot on its own.



I think the reason why things like this are much more expensive in Europe than in America might be more complex than "they're trying to con Europe" and "they're too lazy to make a conversion" or something like that. I think there's a lot more going on here, and since we know pricing does matter it would seem to make less sense to price a system that much more in another country. I suppose.



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kowenicki said:

It's the school holidays that kill me. Looking to go to Florida one last time next year (daughter 11 now, her 4th trip there) and the virgin flights and accommodation alone is looking like 3 to 4k for the two weeks.  Park tickets, car food.... Sigh.

Yeah, we always had to travel during school holidays, because of my mum's job (Educational Welfare Officer... very well can't take time out during term time!) This summer, we flew to, using American Airlines, and back on British Airways (still through AA, but on a BA flight), was the cheapest option. Some people insist on flying with Virgin, though... personally, I don't rate them (hell, I've had better experiences with Jet Airways - India's flagship airline!). You can also save money by avoiding a direct flight to Orlando.

Where do you stay? Hotels or villas? We typically stay at Highlands Reserve, which is a villa development/golf community. Really nice there, though I'm not aware of the costs (friends of the family own property, so we get "mate's rates"). I'm not sure of typical hotels, but villas are definitely a more cost-effective option than Disney Hotels... plus, we prefer the villa experience; I find with hotels, you sometimes feel more obliged to stay in, to make use of the features that you've paid for.

But, yeah, the whole school holiday thing is a massive piss take.



Let me be another one to say that the price is way too high for europe, i was seriously considering it but not anymore.

Long story short, (according to the exchange rate) the price for the deluxe is 30000yen=380$=290euros and according to the street prices the US is getting a lower price (350$) whereas europe a far steeper one (350e).

I've read lots of posts here trying to explain things but im still feeling like someone is pulling my leg.
What tax accounts for such a wide difference.

Man, im sad i don't live in the country of the free and the land of the brave. Hey Romney are you reading this im voting for you if you get me a green card. Im gonna watch Colbert now to feel a little american...



Wonder if I should buy it.

What will be the use of the tablet ? Android ?



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