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DieAppleDie on 17 September 2012

Ninpie
I didnt
i think prices are fair



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JazzB1987 on 17 September 2012
wfz said:
Can someone fill me in on why there's so much hate? Minimum wage in USA = $7.25 I believe. UK = 6.00 (roughly, in their currency).

Prices in the UK already include the high vat tax, so if anything it's more expensive in the USA for our respective currency. Minimum wage is very close, so I don't see how this makes a big difference in the end of the day for each respective citizen. I work X hours to get 350 in my currency to purchase the console, and you work almost the exact same X hours to receive enough of your currency to purchase the console.


It's not about hate dude.

And you do know Europe =/= UK?  
People from France Germany Poland Spain Greece etc  def  earn less money than the average brit/uk guy.  Sure Switzerland Luxembourg etc. earn more but the number of gamers etc in those countries is so low compared to the big EU countries because their population is low to begin with.

And  US + VAT = still less than EU prices that include VAT.  For like 7 years now the dollar has been a weaker currency  then the pound or euro and so you guys should even pay more than we do because we both "import" this stuff from japan. (sure its made here but their business works like if we import and thats also why they lose money on currency conversion.)  So again wage or VAT is just half the problem the other half is arbitrary pricing/unfair currency conversion. 

Btw UK prices are usually lower than mainland europe prices even tho the average brit earns more money. And because people started to "import" games from the UK  Sony for example decided to increase manufacturing costs because they wanted to make 2 versions. Most UK versions now are english only and the rest of europe gets multi 5 games ( English German French Spanish Italian). 

So this is proof that the companies MILK europe on purpose. Otherwhise they would not start making  ENGLISH ONLY versions for the UK  that increase manufacturing costs  only for mainlanders to decrease the number of games they import. This also happens with alot of blurays.  (Harry Potter 7.2 as far as I remember was the first HP movie to have ENGLISH ONLY audio)






melbye on 17 September 2012

My WiiU Premium is going to cost me $614 converted from 3499 norwegian money



samuship on 17 September 2012
FrancisNobleman said:
samuship said:


I understand, you're right. But, if they don't bring down the price, the system will never sell. For example, PSVita coasts R$1400, which is equivalent to 700 dollars. I mean, IT WONT SELL. It's absolutely impossible.

I own the three home consoles of current gen, but it's VERY difficult to keep them. But the strange part, is that the 3DS is sold at a reasonable price, something around $350. Yeah, that's right, I'm saying a 350 USD handheld is cheap, just imagine how it is to be a gamer here...

You are a rather rich guy for a Brazillian. You must be like high-medium class citizen.


Oh, I see, but I guess you have the wrong idea about us. I mean, we're one of the biggest economies out there. But you're right, I'm a high-medium class citizen, my friends had to pick just one for this console generation. That's why the PS2 is still the best seeling console here, the prices are AWFUL.



We need moar Zelda, now!

We need moar Unchartedzz!

We need less DLCs.

SamuelRSmith on 17 September 2012
wfz said:
Can someone fill me in on why there's so much hate? Minimum wage in USA = $7.25 I believe. UK = 6.00 (roughly, in their currency).

Prices in the UK already include the high vat tax, so if anything it's more expensive in the USA for our respective currency. Minimum wage is very close, so I don't see how this makes a big difference in the end of the day for each respective citizen. I work X hours to get 350 in my currency to purchase the console, and you work almost the exact same X hours to receive enough of your currency to purchase the console.


Americans earn more, are taxed less, and prices are lower... minimum wage means nothing, only 5.2% of all hourly paid workers are paid Federal minimum wage... half of those are under 25 (meaning that they still live at home with their parents, don't have families, etc... it's usually just pure disposable income for booze and games).



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wfz on 17 September 2012
SamuelRSmith said:
wfz said:
Can someone fill me in on why there's so much hate? Minimum wage in USA = $7.25 I believe. UK = 6.00 (roughly, in their currency).

Prices in the UK already include the high vat tax, so if anything it's more expensive in the USA for our respective currency. Minimum wage is very close, so I don't see how this makes a big difference in the end of the day for each respective citizen. I work X hours to get 350 in my currency to purchase the console, and you work almost the exact same X hours to receive enough of your currency to purchase the console.


Americans earn more, are taxed less, and prices are lower... minimum wage means nothing, only 5.2% of all hourly paid workers are paid Federal minimum wage... half of those are under 25 (meaning that they still live at home with their parents, don't have families, etc... it's usually just pure disposable income for booze and games).

You bring up good points, and I'll admit I'm not aware of the differences in income distribution between the two countries, but are prices still lower when you consider that it's USA + no tax against UK + tax? If you took out the UK tax that's automatically included, would it still be higher compared to their average income?



NintendoPie on 17 September 2012
DieAppleDie said:
Ninpie
I didnt
i think prices are fair


I didn't mean you necessarily.



justinian on 17 September 2012
kowenicki said:
Carl2291 said:
If it costs that much over here, theyre gonna have a real tough time.


Eh? Why would they struggle with the premium priced at between £250 and £299

How much did you expect it to be?  Its a new console.

The Vita costs between £220 and £250, if anything the Vita will now look even more ridiculously expensive when a "next gen" WiiU is launched with a price beginining with the same first digit.

 

Totally agree. I will now compare the PS2 to the wii u to show how things have or have not changed... kind of.

In 2000, the bestselling PS2 launched for £299.00 in the UK. I think it cost $299.00 in the US.

I cannot confirm the PS2 launch europe prices but googling comes up with anything between 390 and 500 + euros.

12 years later and another console launches at roughly the same price in the UK and Europe ( and you get "two" consoles ).

I honestly don't see a problem with this.

If anything the Americans are getting a poorer deal now with the wii u than they did with the PS2 ( if my info is correct ).

I am just saying if that launch price didn't do the PS2 much harm over a decade why should it be a problem for the wii u now? Is it the current economic climate?

If so god help the next xbox and PS which I am guessing will cost more, maybe significantly more.



SamuelRSmith on 18 September 2012
wfz said:
SamuelRSmith said:
wfz said:
Can someone fill me in on why there's so much hate? Minimum wage in USA = $7.25 I believe. UK = 6.00 (roughly, in their currency).

Prices in the UK already include the high vat tax, so if anything it's more expensive in the USA for our respective currency. Minimum wage is very close, so I don't see how this makes a big difference in the end of the day for each respective citizen. I work X hours to get 350 in my currency to purchase the console, and you work almost the exact same X hours to receive enough of your currency to purchase the console.


Americans earn more, are taxed less, and prices are lower... minimum wage means nothing, only 5.2% of all hourly paid workers are paid Federal minimum wage... half of those are under 25 (meaning that they still live at home with their parents, don't have families, etc... it's usually just pure disposable income for booze and games).

You bring up good points, and I'll admit I'm not aware of the differences in income distribution between the two countries, but are prices still lower when you consider that it's USA + no tax against UK + tax? If you took out the UK tax that's automatically included, would it still be higher compared to their average income?

A three week trip to Florida is more affordable than a week in London... and we live abut an hour away from London.

A woman I was talking to yesterday was complaining about the cost of rent in Boston... her rent was lower than mine in Canterbury, and she had bills included, and some killer view... I was in the middle of a council estate (and bills not included).

Americans have the highest standard of living in the world (minus some minor countries with really small populations and lots of oil/or one of those countries used as an offshore bank), and that's because they have the highest wages, and pay the lowest prices.



wfz on 18 September 2012
SamuelRSmith said:
wfz said:
SamuelRSmith said:
wfz said:
Can someone fill me in on why there's so much hate? Minimum wage in USA = $7.25 I believe. UK = 6.00 (roughly, in their currency).

Prices in the UK already include the high vat tax, so if anything it's more expensive in the USA for our respective currency. Minimum wage is very close, so I don't see how this makes a big difference in the end of the day for each respective citizen. I work X hours to get 350 in my currency to purchase the console, and you work almost the exact same X hours to receive enough of your currency to purchase the console.


Americans earn more, are taxed less, and prices are lower... minimum wage means nothing, only 5.2% of all hourly paid workers are paid Federal minimum wage... half of those are under 25 (meaning that they still live at home with their parents, don't have families, etc... it's usually just pure disposable income for booze and games).

You bring up good points, and I'll admit I'm not aware of the differences in income distribution between the two countries, but are prices still lower when you consider that it's USA + no tax against UK + tax? If you took out the UK tax that's automatically included, would it still be higher compared to their average income?

A three week trip to Florida is more affordable than a week in London... and we live abut an hour away from London.

A woman I was talking to yesterday was complaining about the cost of rent in Boston... her rent was lower than mine in Canterbury, and she had bills included, and some killer view... I was in the middle of a council estate (and bills not included).

Americans have the highest standard of living in the world (minus some minor countries with really small populations and lots of oil/or one of those countries used as an offshore bank), and that's because they have the highest wages, and pay the lowest prices.

We do? Maybe we used to... Everyone I know is having an extremely hard time trying to pay bills and just get by without going into debt... Not to mention that the youth is always complaining about not being able to find jobs, and the whole "need experience for job, need job for experience" thing. I think that's at least in great part due to their own entitlement issues as I've seen my sister, who always complains about this, turn down many job offerings that just weren't her ideal dream job. 

But is it really worse there in the UK and other parts of Europe? God damn... :(