JayWood2010 said:
That is nothing more than an assumption on your part. It is simple, the mods should admit when theyre wrong about something. Pezus's first ban, the mods can make a case for that all day, my guess is few people will agree. Mr khan and ConeG both handled Tbone's thread wrong instead of giving the truth about it(trucks correctly dealt with it). Noble's ban shouldnt have been anything more than a warning. The Gears of War thread also horribly handled. When people bring this up they're swept under the rug and errors continue. It isnt hard for one of them to come out and say, it wasnt handled correctly, we will do better in the future. The mods can call us spoiled and that is perfectly fine but they need to realize they're a big part of the community themselves and what they choose to do can ultimately be a deciding factor on whether or not someone continues to come to this site.
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The Pezus ban is for directly ignoring a warning in the thread; saying that it will result in a ban. We've made this point over and over again in this thread, so where's the confusion? You can't just ignore a mod warning and if pezus had just PM'd me with his concerns I could have explained rather than this happening. He didn't, so he was banned. I'm not really sure why that's posing such confusion unfortunately.
Also, as with the tbone thing I sent you a lengthy PM explaining the entire thing to you, so that should be cleared up. Could that have been handled better? Maybe, but it was the first time such a thing had happened for me and I believed the problem was sorted with tbone without having to explain to other people, but when it became apparant the reasoning was posted publicly and the whole thing was cleared up.
Noble's ban was only something I was aware of after the ban expired, and I am informed that it has been discussed with the people who are involved, so I can't say anything else about that.
Axum even said here earlier in the thread that we do make errors and when there are some then they are sorted out. It's impossible for us to check every post (hence reports) and sometimes not all mods agree with a moderation. With the Kowen ban, for example, the mods online at the time were in agreement so we went with the ban, but afterwards it was decided that with more input from other mods the decision was incorrect and as such the ban was overturned. It happens, and I'm not ashamed to admit that. Nothing is being swept under the rug, which is why it's being discussed here. Furthermore, I have PM'd other users in the past month when they have voiced concerns over bans or moderation from myself and other mods to try and smooth things out without having to result to mod bashing; a method I find works surprisingly well.
But expecting us to be happy with public complaints about moderation in the forum; which directly goes against forum rules, is going too far. We have this thread, we have e-mail, we have PM's, Skype, AIM...there's more than enough ways to voice your opinion both publicly and privately, and we will answer as you can see.
Finally, I'm really not sure if this is as widespread an issue as you claim it to be. I can see very few users in this thread talking about moderation; and the "eexcuse" than people don't see this thread just doesn't wash with me I'm afraid. As I said I've had plenty of PM's; both positive and negative about moderation concerning myself and other users and I have responded to each and every one to clear up any concerns, questions or praise which these users have sent. So people know what they need to do and are doing it, and these problems are being resolved, regardless of what you may think. I'm assuming this is the same for other moderators as well.