It has nothing to do with sticking up for whoever banned you at what time, its trying to make you understand why you were banned and what you can do to improve yourself.

Why? because he was very much in denial (still is) and it very much was pathetic(still is). And just like saying someone is being idiotic, it should be accept because those are very two similar things... you know... the thing you boss said was fine.

If someone is acting like a dick, I dont need to call them a dick.

Self control.

GET THIS THROUGH YOUR DAMN HEAD!

KANTOR, THE ASSISTANT HEAD MODERATOR, SAID IT IS PERFECTLY ACCEPTABLE TO SAY THAT YOU CAN SAY SOMEONE IS ACTING IDIOTIC.

TORILLIAN, A SITE ADMIN, HAS SAID NUMEROUS TIMES YOU CAN CALL SOMEONES POST STUPID

Consistency man. Consistency

And if it provokes an off topic argument, I have every right to moderate you for it. Its really not that difficult to understand. If you bait with an off topic post, you get moderated.

I will re-post things from the Rule page for you.

"You always have the right to express your opinion, as long as it is relevant to the thread topic, and you do so in a civil manner, justifying what you say."

"Attacking other users for any reason is never acceptable"

"Do not personally insult other users"

"In general try to treat other users with respect and courtesy. We understand debates get heated, but don’t lose yourself in them."

I dont see why its so hard to reel in your emotions and keep the hostility out of things.

Yea, I got that.  But what you dont get,obviously, is that "in general" means "usually" so since I "usually" treat others with respect (I have for hours in this thread already) that is irrelevant.

Personal insults are just that, personal. "You are an idiot" is a personal insult. "Your comment is stupid" is not. That is irrelevant

Again, attacking the USER! The user's denial isn't the user is it? The users post isnt the user. Is it? That's why kantor and torillian have both said similar things are acceptable. That is irrelevant.

Let me post from the rules as well, "Keep posts on topic as much as possible. Threads do sometimes naturally transition into other discussions, but coming in and posting about a completely different topic in order to start arguments is not okay." When someone continually denies denies denies when all the proof is in front of their eyes then yes, the NATURAL transition will be that a user is denying something. When someone DIRECTLY ASKS why I'm hostile and i DIRECTLY respond because someone is being ignorant IS BEING IGNORANT isn't going off topic and ISNT being uncivil. You know what it is? Being blunt and truthful and directly saying the way things are. I didn't just enter the thread and first thing I said was "Your denial is pathetic." He was proven wrong time and AGAIN and continued the nonsense. That strong of denial NATURALLY transitioned the topic to him at that point. If someone was to be moderated it should have been the problem in the thread. Which wasnt me thats for sure

Every single one of those rules is relevant to your mod history. Im not talking one moderation. Im talking your entire history here. Im talking about why you were banned for each and every one of those posts I linked. Im talking about why you have 11 bans for Flaming between January 2013 and now. Im giving you ideas for how to improve yourself.

The hostility simply isnt wanted. It provokes un-needed arguments on the forums. You have been banned repeatedly for going over the line and antagonising people. Cut it out and youll find the bans will stop. Its really, really not that difficult to understand Max. Stop going at people like you do. Reel it in.

And if you don't think his denial didn't naturally transition the conversation let me prove it to you.

And keep in mind every time he was in a thread he was spewing the same nonsense so he was well known for this stuff... If you'd like, I could go through his post history through the month of January and show posts he was making in every other thread? (Or you could just concede that this particular user was known for shitting up threads with his denial that Ps4 was supply constrained, sought after and was actually receiving as good of sales as it was.) even to this day he mostly says the same stuff.

"Every time we see proof that there is great demand for PS4...there's that one guy that just doesn't want to believe and will fight endlessly because it's not his favorite console, truly sad and pathetic. "

"And denial started again... I guessed this phase was passed but not "

"I love when dark feanor shits up a thread with his dummy-spitting denial" **MODERATED**

"I guess the 4.4m on frontpage (with shortages) aren't enough for him:)"

"No. 4.2m + SOLD OUT = Unprecedent demand."

"But how this guy is fierce! He even doesn't believe official Sony numbers from press releases. Now that's some kind of devotion! I almost admire him! Ok maybe not but it's really funny to watch"

"People can sit here and ask for pictures of lines, or this is all fabricated... but the reason I kinda chuckle at those people is that me myself have yet to actually see a PS4 and considering I get laughed at whenever I ask a handful of stores if they have any PS4's, that is enough proof for me. Side note: Why does anyone need pictures? Numbers don't lie no matter how you slice it. When it comes to selling a console the NUMBER of consoles sold is A LOT more important than PICTURES of all of the consoles being sold. Again, Numbers don't lie."

"You are now going to be told your store is a special case, or that Sony plain clothed employees are buying the stock to give artificial demand, or any other silly delusional excuse by DF to help him sleep better at night with his favorite console in last place"

"Touma has provided the proof you needed. Your rebellion ends here Jedi!"

"Please point me where have I ever doubted MS numbers. And if you won't anything, and you won't but I welcome you to try, then please stop spreading the lies and bullshit that's coming from your posts."

"and he leaves as fast as he came. but tomorrow he will be repeating the same nonsense in a different thread"

"aaand he is back :)"

"Now it's only two pics, but when a random guy says he hasn't seen PS4s on display you scream PROOF!!!! Jesus dude, why don't you go and investigate some other conspiracy."

"Your denial is so pathetic right now dark. Just let it go. Holy fucking jesus christ shit"

"Congrats man! You have just stormed my list of favourite users all the way to the second place! You threw Johnlucas off the box and moved Kowen to the lowest place on the podium, but still have some catching up to do to get past Zero999, so keep on trolling, sir! You're doing a mighty fine job!"

"all of that has absolutely diddly shit to do with the nonsense you are spouting"

"If these reasons don't mean high demand, i don't know what demand is."
....Annnnndd how many post do I need to provide that the conversation naturally transitioned to Dark's denial until I got moderated?

Fuck that shit. How about you listen to your superiors and allow what they say is okay?

I got to write a 3 page paper that's due in a couple hours but I will continue this conversation later.

But final thoughts for you. "In general treat people with respect." Google search "define in general" and it will pop up "usually." I usually do treat people with respect. And if you want me to go through my post history I will. Or you just can concede I do. When people act like total morons ("You are acting idiotic") like Dark Feanor was in that thread then all respect goes out the window. And rightly so, but that isn't against the rules.

When I say "Holy shit jesus fucking Christ" That is perfectly acceptable. Swearing never has and should never be moderation worthy. Numerous head mods have said so. Being an abrasive poster has never been moderation worthy. There is no mention of swearing in the rules.

Personal attacks are just that, personal. Its attacking the person. Saying someones actions or posts always have and always will be accepted. I can't call someone pathetic but I can call someones posts or action pathetic as quoted by Torillian and Kantor (your superiors). You know how the adage goes? Love the sinner hate the sin... or something like that. Or in more modern words, don't make fun of the person or who they are. Make fun of what they do.