I think you need to re-read the OP - http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4757482

"If you do think we're doing badly, please do post and tell us why. We want to do the best job we can, and your unhappiness doesn't help us unless it is explained. And if you think we're doing well, then a nice comment and any ideas for improvement that you have would be nice as well."

What you are doing is being vague. You did this last time and refused to expand on anything you were actually saying.

Spit it out already.

You guys are worth vague responses to me.  I have no faith in you guys fixing problems.  Its been years of the same complaints to the point it drives people away. IN other words im not going to waste my time and i dont think CWG should waste his time either which is why i commented in the first place.

Now im sorry if what i say offends you all, to be fair i think plenty of you guys are great people you included :)  

EDIT: Carl, if i were to say you guys are doing a great job would you ask me why?  Probably not.  If im going against what you want in this thread then i will gladly walk away, but all im doing is giving CWG some advice and saying that ban that i quoted above was nitpicky.  You dont have to agree, that doesnt bother me

Well then perhaps I can't do anything unless you actually tell me and everyone else what the problems are )not just talking about this but in general). Attacks are not welcome in this thread one bit and you know that. So please don't ignore this so we can try to help, and trying to say "sorry if it offends you" because that seems like it's pretty obvious and I'm not having it for one minute, and noone else should have to either.

But if all we're worth is "vague responses" then maybe it's not even worth trying to fix any issues you may have anyway, if you can't even be bothered to tell us them.

Actually i clearly stated issues i had.  You want to work on them then be my guest, but i know you guys wont.  But here i will highlight it for you again.  No i will not go into detail about it though.  Im actually done here.  So im going to leave this thread now if i have your permission

  A lot of bans are nitpicky, some people do have more leverage than others, continued stealth trolling from users is still rampant,  and on occasions ive even seen mods make rules up as they go along.  

Now Cone I really do not like you.  If you want to PM me and talk about that then go right ahead.  But when i ask you to not reply to me id appreciate it if you grant me that. There is plenty of other mods here that can talk to me that i personally dont have problems with

So, in other words... This thread is NOT the place to whine mindlessly about the mods and their work? Or the place to try and rally people against the mods?

Because, I'm quite sure that if you don't want the mods to take an active part in the conversation and try to understand your complaints, the best course of action is to use private messages. What reason could one have to post complaints and advices in public for all to see, if he doesn't want any of it discussed and questioned? Seems to me like all that this is asking is for one to be the center of attention moreso than actually trying to fix problems.

Exactly!  Because you know me bettr than i know myself ;)  We've been like best friends on this website.  Axumblade knows that <3

Btw you broke that rule again for the 2nd day in a row.  Its like when you see me you just cant help yourself.  True friendship ;)

Liking me or not has nothing to do with this. We've already discussed that. I'm here as a moderator to try and fix the problems of a user with the site or the mod team, and nothing else. It doesn't need to be more than that and I've no intention of making it more than that.

So yeah, you now have a number of moderators and a number of non-moderators and the "normal user" you mentioned in your initial post(s) asking for specific examples. If there isn't any, then there really isn't anything anyone else can say or do. 

I've taken part in this thread for quite some time now. Not going to stop just because you're taking a part in it too.

As for what I posted above, I've checked with a mod before posting it to make sure it was ok. ^__-

from axumblade on 13 July 2013Let me make this clear to you, if you EVER reply to Hynad again unless you two randomly start becoming BFF's, I will not hesitate to ban you. I told you both to leave each other alone and I meant it. That being said, I am sorry that he continued this feud on through the forums and I have banned him for you. I do apologize for not taking action against him, I was hoping (which I realize was dumb on my part) that he would just leave you alone.


ITs cute the mods ignore this just so you can defend them though :)

Nope. Saying we are doing well means we dont need to change things around. It means we dont have to ask about how we can improve if people are happy with the job. It doesnt need a reply. It doesnt need a "Thanks!" or anything. On the other hand, people complaining (In your case over and over again) requires a reply because as Moderators here we have to make sure the place is okay for the majority to visit.

I have no problem with you saying the ban was nitpicky, what I have a problem with is your vague bashing of the team in general. It isnt the first time you have done it.

I have a problem with the whole "but in the end we really dont have much say as the past has proven" ; "Im saying that you all disregard the community and just use each other instead" ; "Dont argue it though, there really is no use.  In other words your wasting your time". Its all wrong. You are posting absolute rubbish.

I mean, come on. Help us out here. Your vague complaints in this thread are pointless if you arent going to expand upon them. When you post things like this - "But yes there is problems with the mods and im certainly not going to lie about that just to make you all feel better. I absolutely have no faith you all will fix them" - Without actually expanding on it, it gets to the point where it looks like you are doing it just to piss us off.

When you go on about the "#UndergroundMovement" over and over again, when nobody from this "Movement" actually pops up with any substantial complaints, suggestions or general observations, then it amplifies what I just said about it looking like youre doing it to piss us off.

Take a leaf out of Rol's book.

Ding ding ding! Ka-pi96 gets it.