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Dilemma: what would you rather have:

A dominating weaker PS3 w... 69 40.12%
 
The PS3 as it is now 103 59.88%
 
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S.T.A.G.E. on 28 August 2012
D-Joe said:

That's the problem,at least MS show "yeah we're making 360&nextbox become multimedia device,what?problem?don't buy it."(of course we should ignore how many studios they build/bought in last 2 years and let's talk about FASA Ensemble etc)

Sony...ah wait,we're in game discussion aka sony discussion#2(Please ignore what they're closed even in this year and just talk about they bought sucker punch Media Molecule etc) 

But it's "nice" to see just because a game have another name that means it is very creative(=don't need to care what genre of the game is)

And you know,if any 360 game VGCer don't like,it's not a game.if any new PS3 game announced by SCE,it will automatic become a great game(at least until it release)


What games did Microsoft announce between Gears and the arcade titles? Oh wait...sorry..Usher is exclusive.



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Mandalore76 on 28 August 2012
Gamerace said:


You forget what it was like back in '06.    Wii stirred the imagination with what motion would add to games.   Wii Sports was a great example but too limited for the core.   The core wanted sword-fighting - something Wii didn't truly deliver until Zelda:SS - 6 years later.   PS3 would have delivered it immediately with Heavenly Sword.    Move would have delivered the motion controls gamers where looking for, and the experiences they were looking for where Wii provided wrist flicking casual fare.  

Developers were all betting on PS3 being king again and so the development support was there to deliver deep, rich and fully online experiences with well integrated motion/aiming that really worked the way everyone wanted them too.   

PS3 couldn't possibly look like a Wii rip-off when it launched first (by days) and did it better, with better graphics (it could easily have been more powerful than Wii and closer to 360 at that price).    Wii would have looked like a poor-mans' PS3.

Very few would actually care 360 had better graphics, the same that no one cared Xbox and GC were superior to PS2.   The most graphically powerful machine has never, ever won a console (or handheld) generation.   Striving to be the biggest, badest machine on the block was the stupidest thing Sony did.   Looking at history would say that was a huge mistake.

Everyone loved the PS2.   The reason the PS3 floundered was because Sony slapped a great big F--- YOU on the box with a system that abandoned the PS2's casual base and focused on stealing 360's (small!) marketshare instead.   Ridiculous price.  None of the casual friendly titles from the PS2's library.  

The PS3 was not a true successor to the PS2.   The PS2 was the EVERYONE system.   PS3 was clearly only for the hardest of the hard core when it launched but the hardest core gamers were still better served by the 360 which had better games, better online, better graphics (since it was the lead development platform) and no games being delayed which plagued PS3 early on.

Sony should have stuck to what worked.   Launch earlier with a less powerful system and focus on the market that made them king, not the market which put Xbox at a very, very distance 2nd place.


Way too much hindsight and what-if? involved in that scenario.  If research on Play Station Move began in 2001 and it wasn't perfected enough to release until late 2010, then for it to have been available to launch with PS3 in 2006, research for Move would have to have begun a full four years earlier in 1997 (three years before the release of PS2).  I'm pretty sure there aren't any scenarios where Sony is working on development of Eye Toy and Play Station Move accessories during the lifespan of their first home console, the Play Station.



D-Joe on 28 August 2012
S.T.A.G.E. said:
D-Joe said:

That's the problem,at least MS show "yeah we're making 360&nextbox become multimedia device,what?problem?don't buy it."(of course we should ignore how many studios they build/bought in last 2 years and let's talk about FASA Ensemble etc)

Sony...ah wait,we're in game discussion aka sony discussion#2(Please ignore what they're closed even in this year and just talk about they bought sucker punch Media Molecule etc) 

But it's "nice" to see just because a game have another name that means it is very creative(=don't need to care what genre of the game is)

And you know,if any 360 game VGCer don't like,it's not a game.if any new PS3 game announced by SCE,it will automatic become a great game(at least until it release)


What games did Microsoft announce between Gears and the arcade titles? Oh wait...sorry..Usher is exclusive.

Too bad Dance Central series is good series

And wtf is "between Gears and arcade titles"?XBLA are not 1 genre

But you show your face,that's good



http://zh-tw.justin.tv/johndoe1899

Turkish on 28 August 2012
D-Joe said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
D-Joe said:

That's the problem,at least MS show "yeah we're making 360&nextbox become multimedia device,what?problem?don't buy it."(of course we should ignore how many studios they build/bought in last 2 years and let's talk about FASA Ensemble etc)

Sony...ah wait,we're in game discussion aka sony discussion#2(Please ignore what they're closed even in this year and just talk about they bought sucker punch Media Molecule etc) 

But it's "nice" to see just because a game have another name that means it is very creative(=don't need to care what genre of the game is)

And you know,if any 360 game VGCer don't like,it's not a game.if any new PS3 game announced by SCE,it will automatic become a great game(at least until it release)


What games did Microsoft announce between Gears and the arcade titles? Oh wait...sorry..Usher is exclusive.

Too bad Dance Central series is good series

And wtf is "between Gears and arcade titles"?XBLA are not 1 genre

But you show your face,that's good


What does his face look like and why is it good?



S.T.A.G.E. on 28 August 2012
D-Joe said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
D-Joe said:

That's the problem,at least MS show "yeah we're making 360&nextbox become multimedia device,what?problem?don't buy it."(of course we should ignore how many studios they build/bought in last 2 years and let's talk about FASA Ensemble etc)

Sony...ah wait,we're in game discussion aka sony discussion#2(Please ignore what they're closed even in this year and just talk about they bought sucker punch Media Molecule etc) 

But it's "nice" to see just because a game have another name that means it is very creative(=don't need to care what genre of the game is)

And you know,if any 360 game VGCer don't like,it's not a game.if any new PS3 game announced by SCE,it will automatic become a great game(at least until it release)


What games did Microsoft announce between Gears and the arcade titles? Oh wait...sorry..Usher is exclusive.

Too bad Dance Central series is good series

And wtf is "between Gears and arcade titles"?XBLA are not 1 genre

But you show your face,that's good


Please...XBLA is nothing to brag about at E3 of all place. Its a true indicator that you dont care about major development IP's. Indy titles are being published and worked on by Sony and Microsoft subordinates so it doesnt matter either way.



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Turkish on 28 August 2012
S.T.A.G.E. said:
D-Joe said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
D-Joe said:

That's the problem,at least MS show "yeah we're making 360&nextbox become multimedia device,what?problem?don't buy it."(of course we should ignore how many studios they build/bought in last 2 years and let's talk about FASA Ensemble etc)

Sony...ah wait,we're in game discussion aka sony discussion#2(Please ignore what they're closed even in this year and just talk about they bought sucker punch Media Molecule etc) 

But it's "nice" to see just because a game have another name that means it is very creative(=don't need to care what genre of the game is)

And you know,if any 360 game VGCer don't like,it's not a game.if any new PS3 game announced by SCE,it will automatic become a great game(at least until it release)


What games did Microsoft announce between Gears and the arcade titles? Oh wait...sorry..Usher is exclusive.

Too bad Dance Central series is good series

And wtf is "between Gears and arcade titles"?XBLA are not 1 genre

But you show your face,that's good


Please...XBLA is nothing to brag about at E3 of all place. Its a true indicator that you dont care about major development IP's. Indy titles are being published and worked on by Sony and Microsoft subordinates so it doesnt matter either way.


 

Best and most interesting looking downloadable game Ive seen.



D-Joe on 28 August 2012
S.T.A.G.E. said:
D-Joe said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
D-Joe said:

That's the problem,at least MS show "yeah we're making 360&nextbox become multimedia device,what?problem?don't buy it."(of course we should ignore how many studios they build/bought in last 2 years and let's talk about FASA Ensemble etc)

Sony...ah wait,we're in game discussion aka sony discussion#2(Please ignore what they're closed even in this year and just talk about they bought sucker punch Media Molecule etc) 

But it's "nice" to see just because a game have another name that means it is very creative(=don't need to care what genre of the game is)

And you know,if any 360 game VGCer don't like,it's not a game.if any new PS3 game announced by SCE,it will automatic become a great game(at least until it release)


What games did Microsoft announce between Gears and the arcade titles? Oh wait...sorry..Usher is exclusive.

Too bad Dance Central series is good series

And wtf is "between Gears and arcade titles"?XBLA are not 1 genre

But you show your face,that's good


Please...XBLA is nothing to brag about at E3 of all place. Its a true indicator that you dont care about major development IP's. Indy titles are being published and worked on by Sony and Microsoft subordinates so it doesnt matter either way.

what brag?who's bragging right now?you?

it doesn't matter huh?ok...can't talk to a guy from 2005,but you can still think that way,i can't stop



http://zh-tw.justin.tv/johndoe1899

S.T.A.G.E. on 28 August 2012
Turkish said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
D-Joe said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
D-Joe said:

That's the problem,at least MS show "yeah we're making 360&nextbox become multimedia device,what?problem?don't buy it."(of course we should ignore how many studios they build/bought in last 2 years and let's talk about FASA Ensemble etc)

Sony...ah wait,we're in game discussion aka sony discussion#2(Please ignore what they're closed even in this year and just talk about they bought sucker punch Media Molecule etc) 

But it's "nice" to see just because a game have another name that means it is very creative(=don't need to care what genre of the game is)

And you know,if any 360 game VGCer don't like,it's not a game.if any new PS3 game announced by SCE,it will automatic become a great game(at least until it release)


What games did Microsoft announce between Gears and the arcade titles? Oh wait...sorry..Usher is exclusive.

Too bad Dance Central series is good series

And wtf is "between Gears and arcade titles"?XBLA are not 1 genre

But you show your face,that's good


Please...XBLA is nothing to brag about at E3 of all place. Its a true indicator that you dont care about major development IP's. Indy titles are being published and worked on by Sony and Microsoft subordinates so it doesnt matter either way.


 

Best and most interesting looking downloadable game Ive seen.


Good looking game but its a smaller title. Sony indy exclusives tend to be more adventurous, ambitious and different, but that doesnt change the fact that smaller games shouldn't be boasted about when you've got retail exclusive or handheld titles to talk about. The people who buy are a niche of the overall market.



S.T.A.G.E. on 28 August 2012
D-Joe said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
D-Joe said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
D-Joe said:

That's the problem,at least MS show "yeah we're making 360&nextbox become multimedia device,what?problem?don't buy it."(of course we should ignore how many studios they build/bought in last 2 years and let's talk about FASA Ensemble etc)

Sony...ah wait,we're in game discussion aka sony discussion#2(Please ignore what they're closed even in this year and just talk about they bought sucker punch Media Molecule etc) 

But it's "nice" to see just because a game have another name that means it is very creative(=don't need to care what genre of the game is)

And you know,if any 360 game VGCer don't like,it's not a game.if any new PS3 game announced by SCE,it will automatic become a great game(at least until it release)


What games did Microsoft announce between Gears and the arcade titles? Oh wait...sorry..Usher is exclusive.

Too bad Dance Central series is good series

And wtf is "between Gears and arcade titles"?XBLA are not 1 genre

But you show your face,that's good


Please...XBLA is nothing to brag about at E3 of all place. Its a true indicator that you dont care about major development IP's. Indy titles are being published and worked on by Sony and Microsoft subordinates so it doesnt matter either way.

what brag?who's bragging right now?you?

it doesn't matter huh?ok...can't talk to a guy from 2005,but you can still think that way,i can't stop


What in the hell?



brendude13 on 28 August 2012
Turkish said:
Metallicube said:

Ok, now I am convinced this Turkish guy is a joke account. Well played, sir. Took me awhile to figure it out.


Where are your arguments? You're the joke account here.

 

Why do I keep wasting my time with trolls like you. Reported for flaming and personal attacks.

I think calling people "trolls" is considered by mods as flaming and personally attacking.