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DigitalDevilSummoner said:
Darc Requiem said:
NobleTeam360 said:
Can't wait day one buy for me, and for any true FF fan.


I'm curious as to what your definition of "true" Final Fantasy fan is. As for SE, to say they've lost their way at this point is an understatement.


And this is what I love about Square Enix at the moment, they could not possibly care less about what whinny people shout about on the interwebz.

They should be more inclined to care what fans like myself think. I buy more games a year than I should. My favorite genre in gaming is the RPG genre. I've been buying SE games for over 20 years. Side note: If you are going to attempt to insult someone, you might want to spell the insult correctly.



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Noel is one of the best XIII caracters, I hope we will see a darker incarnation of him in XIII-3.



In this sequel, the game sells even LESS on 360. Way to go SE. Brilliant decision going multiplat. Utter failure.



theprof00 said:
In this sequel, the game sells even LESS on 360. Way to go SE. Brilliant decision going multiplat. Utter failure.

i have to agree there. especially considering the trouble they went through and the year long delay to make the port for the 360

and the thing is, XIII-2 graphics on the PS3 are even a little worse  than what thet were on XIII. im sure as hell waiting for an improvement with XIII-3

square has to learn which market supports them and treat them accordingly



BasilZero said:
pezus said:
Watch XIII-3 ship barely 2m. PS3 version 1.6m, 360 0.35m


And yet that would still be considered a success when compared to the niche series that keep coming out in Japan lawl.

 

I would say the most it would see would be 3-4 mil lifetime.

 

I havent played XIII-2 but it cant be as bad as the horror that X-2 was.

Considering XIII-2 probably tops out it's shipments at 3 million I can't see a 3-4 million shipment for XIII-3 being more than about a 10% possibility.



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Runa216 said:
*awaits inevitable flames*

I'm actually putting together a lengthy article explaining each and every reason Final Fantasy XIII sucked...and not just "Baww, corridors", I'm talking actual developmental issues and gameplay features that the game had that kind of went against anything that was good in the series.

It'll be fun to see the rage.


Can I help?  My love/hate relationship with the game has literally kept me up at night.  Does so much wrong, but could have done so much right, friggen pisses me off!



Runa216 said:
oh god please no, no no no nonononoNONONONONONNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

STOP MAKING SHITTY GAMES AND FUCKING RELEASE vsXIII AND KHIII FOR FUCK'S SAKES!

Please don't forget to review that >> shitty << game when it comes out.

I could send you a review copy if you want



I can see why they are doing all this, they have an engine, world layouts, character models, sounds all in stock so why bother creating a new story, characters, engine or whatever for FFXV when you can make more money from cheap sequals to FFXIII



Hmm, pie.

I enjoyed FF13, I enjoyed FF13-2 even more, so I can't wait to play FF13-3 :D



Runa216 said:
*awaits inevitable flames*

I'm actually putting together a lengthy article explaining each and every reason Final Fantasy XIII sucked...and not just "Baww, corridors", I'm talking actual developmental issues and gameplay features that the game had that kind of went against anything that was good in the series.

It'll be fun to see the rage.

A lot of people I feel are missing the point completely. You can throw a stone into a search engine and you'll find innumerable critiques on FF13. You can go on youtube and watch some people rant about their problems with the game.

Theres not much fan rage these days, because its become generally accepted that FF13 was mediocure, to put it midly!

I think the problems with the game are on a fundamental level. And I would really like to see an article explaining where those problems are coming from. I mean, were the developers justified in creatng 6 hours of cutscenes in the game, yet filling those cutscenes with a lot of over-dramatisation of the same plot points. For example 'Its our Focus, Serah said so'. Why are the real questions not answered in the game: like where Bartandulus comes from, why caused The War of Transgression.

I think if you create a game with 6 hours of cutscenes, you are not justified in not explaining the story. This is a problem with the games design on a fundamental level:

Were the directors justified coming into FF13 with the intention of making spin-offs and sequels? Pessonally I think if your creating a 10 hour action game then maybe you are justified in leaving some things open for further sequels. But is it justified for a 100 hour long RPG to have sequels? The main story is what 50-60 hour long, do you need a sequel to tell more story.

If you look at FF7, 9, 6. Did those games need sequels to tell the entire story? No they didnt. Therefore the question is why have the developers gone into this game with the mindset of not telling a complete story. The other things are of course the compitency of writing. The dialogue. Why is the dialogue in some cases not writen for a mature auidence? Why the do characters continuously talk incessently? Where the developers justified using Lost the tv show and Modern Warfare 2 as inspirations for the game? I dont think so.

I agree any article about FF13 might generate fan rage. But I think there needs to be more concern over where the source of these problems came from. Because the probelms havent gone away. The writing in FF13-2 is apparently not much better, (I dont know I havent played it). And apparently The 3rd Birthday is Toriyama's worst offence against intelligent writing (among others: Front Mission 3). Therefore are these problems confined to FF13 alone? Or is the problem much deeper than that.