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I stand corrected. PS2s best quarter for last fiscal year was actually was Apr-Jun, which isn't the norm judging by that chart. Also, looking at the sharp decline from Oct 2011-March 2012, it doesn't look like PS2 will getting close to those numbers til Q4 2012, if again at all. But hey, that's what happens when you've been on the market for 12 years.



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kowenicki said:

So if lower sales means lowers shipments then the PS2 must have shipped lower than 1.4m and the PS3 must have shipped lower than 1.8m.

But, this ps2 ps3 stuff is not really important to the discussion is it. Fact is, they bunched the Vita and PSP together to hide the awful Vita number, thats all that matters..

Well, its all relevant.  I do think the PS3 shipped either the same as or slightly better than last year's 1.8 M.  I do hope that all this doubt and criticism does force Sony to show seperate numbers next quarter, regardless of how poor the Vita is doing.



Its a spin, it happens every day in this industry :))

Still 400k/Q is a terrible number... my god I hope that the Vita makes it, even if it will have a small install base, lets hope it will have a strong following.



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kowenicki said:
thismeintiel said:
kowenicki said:

So if lower sales means lowers shipments then the PS2 must have shipped lower than 1.4m and the PS3 must have shipped lower than 1.8m.

But, this ps2 ps3 stuff is not really important to the discussion is it. Fact is, they bunched the Vita and PSP together to hide the awful Vita number, thats all that matters..

Well, its all relevant.  I do think the PS3 shipped either the same as or slightly better than last year's 1.8 M.  I do hope that all this doubt and criticism does force Sony to show seperate numbers next quarter, regardless of how poor the Vita is doing.

But sony says they sold (shipped) less.  I think Sony lumped everything together to protect the PS3 and PSV. 

The actual wording was "Sales decreased 14.5% year-on-year (a 10% decrease on a constant currency basis) to 118.0 billion yen (1,493 million U.S. dollars).    This decrease was primarily due to lower sales of hardware and software of the PSP® (PlayStation Portable) and PlayStation®3, partially offset by the contribution of the PlayStation®Vita introduced from December 2011."  They lumped them both together.  This could mean that the PSP sold fewer HW (which it did) and SW, while the PS3 only sold fewer SW.  I just find it hard to believe that the PS2 would jump from 900K during last year's holiday season and then 600K during Q1 2012 to 1.1M-1.3M with 5-6 months still to go til the holiday shopping starts.

The PS3 outshipped the both the 360 and the Wii by AT LEAST 600K, so there was no reason to protect the PS3's numbers.  The lumping of the PS2 and PS3 was to remain consistent.  Otherwise it would have been obvious they were protecting the Vita's numbers when they lumped the PSP and Vita together.



Guys. Calm down. Vita is fine. Its sales is acceptable.



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kowenicki said:
thismeintiel said:
kowenicki said:

So if lower sales means lowers shipments then the PS2 must have shipped lower than 1.4m and the PS3 must have shipped lower than 1.8m.

But, this ps2 ps3 stuff is not really important to the discussion is it. Fact is, they bunched the Vita and PSP together to hide the awful Vita number, thats all that matters..

Well, its all relevant.  I do think the PS3 shipped either the same as or slightly better than last year's 1.8 M.  I do hope that all this doubt and criticism does force Sony to show seperate numbers next quarter, regardless of how poor the Vita is doing.

But sony says they sold (shipped) less.  I think Sony lumped everything together to protect the PS3 and PSV. 

Protect PS3 numbers when its shipping more then 360 and Wii combined? Again 1m o more for PS2 doesnt make any sense, PS2 didnt reach 1m in holyday season! Sales are declining fast PS2 may just only ship 2m this fiscal year. 



over at gaf, they're saying ps3 shipped 2.1 million.



I don't know why they are trying to cover it up. People'll keep finding out the "real" numbers.



NintendoPie said:
I don't know why they are trying to cover it up. People'll keep finding out the "real" numbers.


Stocks, if they were to revel those numers that day it would of been horrid damage on their stocks.



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Blacksaber said:
NintendoPie said:
I don't know why they are trying to cover it up. People'll keep finding out the "real" numbers.


Stocks, if they were to revel those numers that day it would of been horrid damage on their stocks.

So the stocks can't be affected by the reveal of the true numbers after the briefing?