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kowenicki said:

So if lower sales means lowers shipments then the PS2 must have shipped lower than 1.4m and the PS3 must have shipped lower than 1.8m.

But, this ps2 ps3 stuff is not really important to the discussion is it. Fact is, they bunched the Vita and PSP together to hide the awful Vita number, thats all that matters..

Well, its all relevant.  I do think the PS3 shipped either the same as or slightly better than last year's 1.8 M.  I do hope that all this doubt and criticism does force Sony to show seperate numbers next quarter, regardless of how poor the Vita is doing.