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Remember when you were a kid and you get gifts, and when you’re really little you like the box better than the gift? That’s how I think of Nintendo fanboys.

 

He's right and I'm sure he would say the same of all fanboys. Fanboy have a irrational love that goes beyond just enjoying something and becomes justifying everything associated with their passion.



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Why is Pachter's opinion of any importance to anyone???
That's not a rhetorical question...
There really seems to be a general consensus that he is as out of touch with the industry as he is with consumers...
And yet he's the only industry analyst I can name...
Now I concede that I probably don't know enough abut the industry...
But why is his name the only one I know, when he's so intensely criticized...
Aren't there any other prominent analysts???



Have a nice day...

first time I actually agree with him on something

Moderated,

-Mr Khan



kain_kusanagi said:

Remember when you were a kid and you get gifts, and when you’re really little you like the box better than the gift? That’s how I think of Nintendo fanboys.

 

He's right and I'm sure he would say the same of all fanboys. Fanboy have a irrational love that goes beyond just enjoying something and becomes justifying everything associated with their passion.


The problem I see is that he starts of with just "fan" and he doesn't change the subject and then uses "fanboy" at the end.  Either he's not good at public speech/writing or he's calling "nintendo fans" and "nintendo fanboys" the same thing.



MDMAlliance said:
kain_kusanagi said:

Remember when you were a kid and you get gifts, and when you’re really little you like the box better than the gift? That’s how I think of Nintendo fanboys.

 

He's right and I'm sure he would say the same of all fanboys. Fanboy have a irrational love that goes beyond just enjoying something and becomes justifying everything associated with their passion.


The problem I see is that he starts of with just "fan" and he doesn't change the subject and then uses "fanboy" at the end.  Either he's not good at public speech/writing or he's calling "nintendo fans" and "nintendo fanboys" the same thing.

Do you know what fan is short for. It's short of fanatic. Fanboys are just even more fanatic fanatics. I often say I'm a fan of something, but what I'm really saying is I generally like that something. Patcher is talking about the devoted fans who buy every Nintendo console on day one with no second though, no matter what. I enjoy Nintendo games but I often wait before buying any console. I waited for a redesign and more games for the 3DS and I'm going to wait for Mario, Zelda, or Metroid for the Wii U. I've been enjoying Nintendo games since the NES and I sometimes call myself a fan, but I know Patcher isn't talking about me. He's obviously talking about the fanatics who refuse to listen to any criticism or consider that Nintendo could make a mistake. He's not talking about people who consistently enjoy Nintendo products and would recommend them to others. He's talking about the fanatics.





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kain_kusanagi said:
MDMAlliance said:
kain_kusanagi said:

Remember when you were a kid and you get gifts, and when you’re really little you like the box better than the gift? That’s how I think of Nintendo fanboys.

 

He's right and I'm sure he would say the same of all fanboys. Fanboy have a irrational love that goes beyond just enjoying something and becomes justifying everything associated with their passion.


The problem I see is that he starts of with just "fan" and he doesn't change the subject and then uses "fanboy" at the end.  Either he's not good at public speech/writing or he's calling "nintendo fans" and "nintendo fanboys" the same thing.

Do you know what fan is short for. It's short of fanatic. Fanboys are just even more fanatic fanatics. I often say I'm a fan of something, but what I'm really saying is I generally like that something. Patcher is talking about the devoted fans who buy every Nintendo console on day one with no second though, no matter what. I enjoy Nintendo games but I often wait before buying any console. I waited for a redesign and more games for the 3DS and I'm going to wait for Mario, Zelda, or Metroid for the Wii U. I've been enjoying Nintendo games since the NES and I sometimes call myself a fan, but I know Patcher isn't talking about me. He's obviously talking about the fanatics who refuse to listen to any criticism or consider that Nintendo could make a mistake. He's not talking about people who consistently enjoy Nintendo products and would recommend them to others. He's talking about the fanatics.




Being a public speaker he is, he should know that using the term "fan" and "fanboy" interchangeably is definitely going to steer a lot of people the wrong way.  It's pretty well known that even though the word "fan" may mean "fanatic," it carries a different connotation now.  A lot of people would consider themselves a "fan" of something without going to such great lengths to get everything from said thing they are a fan of.  Also, it would be better if he was more consistent when using his words.  He shouldn't flip-flop between "fan" and "fanboy".



Man's a PLEB............ end of.



I learned a long time ago that Pachter is a business analyst. It's his job to say stuff that helps the people and companies who pay him, and Nintendo is not one of them. Whenever he makes a "prediction", he's not speaking to the gaming audience per say, but to all the suits out there who own stock in certain companies. Here's a quote directly from Wiki:

"Pachter provides research coverage on digital media, social media, electronics retailers and movie exhibitors. As part of his research coverage, he issues buy, sell, or hold ratings on publicly-traded stocks, provides earnings estimates, and sets 12-month price targets."

Which is why none of his "analyses" or "predictions" make sense to gamers... because he views things strictly from a business standpoint. When he says stuff like X game is going to sell 1 million units at launch, or Y console isn't going to do so well, it goes over the heads of gamers and right to investors, essentially telling them what they should do with their stock and investments.



On 2/24/13, MB1025 said:
You know I was always wondering why no one ever used the dollar sign for $ony, but then I realized they have no money so it would be pointless.

NightDragon83 said:
I learned a long time ago that Pachter is a business analyst. It's his job to say stuff that helps the people and companies who pay him, and Nintendo is not one of them. Whenever he makes a "prediction", he's not speaking to the gaming audience per say, but to all the suits out there who own stock in certain companies. Here's a quote directly from Wiki:

"Pachter provides research coverage on digital media, social media, electronics retailers and movie exhibitors. As part of his research coverage, he issues buy, sell, or hold ratings on publicly-traded stocks, provides earnings estimates, and sets 12-month price targets."

Which is why none of his "analyses" or "predictions" make sense to gamers... because he views things strictly from a business standpoint. When he says stuff like X game is going to sell 1 million units at launch, or Y console isn't going to do so well, it goes over the heads of gamers and right to investors, essentially telling them what they should do with their stock and investments.


But he's still incorrect?  



NightDragon83 said:
I learned a long time ago that Pachter is a business analyst. It's his job to say stuff that helps the people and companies who pay him, and Nintendo is not one of them. Whenever he makes a "prediction", he's not speaking to the gaming audience per say, but to all the suits out there who own stock in certain companies. Here's a quote directly from Wiki:

"Pachter provides research coverage on digital media, social media, electronics retailers and movie exhibitors. As part of his research coverage, he issues buy, sell, or hold ratings on publicly-traded stocks, provides earnings estimates, and sets 12-month price targets."

Which is why none of his "analyses" or "predictions" make sense to gamers... because he views things strictly from a business standpoint. When he says stuff like X game is going to sell 1 million units at launch, or Y console isn't going to do so well, it goes over the heads of gamers and right to investors, essentially telling them what they should do with their stock and investments.


There's something you left out.  He has his show and he replies to these gamers that ask him questions and even tweets insults about some gamers.  I checked once before, and you can check yourself.  I don't hate the guy, I just think he's talking out of his ass sometimes.