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richardhutnik said:
WiiBox3 said:
Interesting. Thanks for the link.

When I first heard it, I went "WTF? He said people who have their own business didn't build it"?  Then I see it can mean that OR it can refer the infrastructure in the prior sentence.  It isn't a gaffe in my book, but something calculated and said on purpose, probably generating the exact response it is now in some circles.

On my end, I have had the experience of both doing welfare and trying to build a business.

Honestly, I agree that it was probably referring to roads and bridges in the previous sentence.  However, I disagree completely that it wasn't a gaffe.  There is no way that it was some calculated move because it exposes Obama to a common attack by republicans, that he is weak on business.  In a down economy, that is exactly where you don't want to be.  Much more likely is Obama lost his place and missed a point and tried to go back and finish the thought.  



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WiiBox3 said:
happydolphin said:
Schools get government grants to develop alot of technologies used by businesses. The internet is just one of those things.

Even though the person who starts a company may not have gone to a public school, many of his employees / customers / contractors / connections / etc may have. Also good public education helps reduce the amount of crime which could prevent a business from being successful.

Good points.



killerzX said:
he is saying he hates rich people (well rich people that dont donate to the obama campaign), and they dont deserve their money, so they should give up their money and redistribute it to other, poorer people, as to buy votes for the democratic party.

yeah, thats pretty much what he said.

 I thought he was talking about how we need to spend more time saving the endagered 

Rio Grande silvery minnow

 

We must have been watching different things.



killerzX said:
he is saying he hates rich people (well rich people that dont donate to the obama campaign), and they dont deserve their money, so they should give up their money and redistribute it to other, poorer people, as to buy votes for the democratic party.

yeah, thats pretty much what he said.

I think rich people probably do need to pay more taxes, but not to redistribute to poorer people.  They should pay more taxes and that money should be used to pay down the freaking deficit.  I think republicans need to bend on taxes or we are never going to get the deficit reduced.  I also think democrats need to bend on cutting social programs.  Deficit is one of the most important issues in my opinion.  



shakarak said:
killerzX said:
he is saying he hates rich people (well rich people that dont donate to the obama campaign), and they dont deserve their money, so they should give up their money and redistribute it to other, poorer people, as to buy votes for the democratic party.

yeah, thats pretty much what he said.

 I thought he was talking about how we need to spend more time saving the endagered 

Rio Grande silvery minnow

 

We must have been watching different things.

He didn`t watch the video. He thinks that supporting a candidate is like cheering for a sports team, where you just choose one based on personal influences(like color of the uniform, flag, location of the team, family`s tastes, etc...) and just stay with it for the rest of your life without a second thought.



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killerzX said:
he is saying he hates rich people (well rich people that dont donate to the obama campaign), and they dont deserve their money, so they should give up their money and redistribute it to other, poorer people, as to buy votes for the democratic party.

yeah, thats pretty much what he said.

If you look at it in context, he's saying that no-one who has succeeded in America built the conditions that allowed them to succeed. Is there an entrepreneur today that didn't take advantage of our education, of the safety offered to citizens from crime and fire, is there an entrepreneur that didn't use roads?

It's a valid point about how the whole "pull yourself up by your bootstraps" mentality is malarky. No man is an island, no business is self-sufficient, reliant on many other businesses and on the State that enforces the environment in which these businesses can operate.



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shakarak said:
killerzX said:
he is saying he hates rich people (well rich people that dont donate to the obama campaign), and they dont deserve their money, so they should give up their money and redistribute it to other, poorer people, as to buy votes for the democratic party.

yeah, thats pretty much what he said.

 I thought he was talking about how we need to spend more time saving the endagered 

Rio Grande silvery minnow

 

We must have been watching different things.

no i heard that part too, he mentioned that later.



Chuva said:
shakarak said:
killerzX said:
he is saying he hates rich people (well rich people that dont donate to the obama campaign), and they dont deserve their money, so they should give up their money and redistribute it to other, poorer people, as to buy votes for the democratic party.

yeah, thats pretty much what he said.

 I thought he was talking about how we need to spend more time saving the endagered 

Rio Grande silvery minnow

 

We must have been watching different things.

He didn`t watch the video. He thinks that supporting a candidate is like cheering for a sports team, where you just choose one based on personal influences(like color of the uniform, flag, location of the team, family`s tastes, etc...) and just stay with it for the rest of your life without a second thought.

o'really.

 

now what candidate am i supporting again?



Mr Khan said:
killerzX said:
he is saying he hates rich people (well rich people that dont donate to the obama campaign), and they dont deserve their money, so they should give up their money and redistribute it to other, poorer people, as to buy votes for the democratic party.

yeah, thats pretty much what he said.

If you look at it in context, he's saying that no-one who has succeeded in America built the conditions that allowed them to succeed. Is there an entrepreneur today that didn't take advantage of our education, of the safety offered to citizens from crime and fire, is there an entrepreneur that didn't use roads?

It's a valid point about how the whole "pull yourself up by your bootstraps" mentality is malarky. No man is an island, no business is self-sufficient, reliant on many other businesses and on the State that enforces the environment in which these businesses can operate.

but we pay for that, primarly the rich pay for that. it didnt just appear.

and its not just the rich that get access to the roads, we all do. they dont get special roads to use. we all have equal opportunity, and we pay for our infastructure.

obama is showing his true colors, he hates the foundation of america. he is a true socialist, always has been, always has surrounding himself with them. he admits to being mentored by the likes of frank marshal davis, seekinh out marxists professors, etc. 

how this man will get more than 20% of the vote, can be solely attributed to the media and of univeristies  covering up, carrying his water, and do whatever they possibly can to protect the president from the truth, his past.



gergroy said:
richardhutnik said:
WiiBox3 said:
Interesting. Thanks for the link.

When I first heard it, I went "WTF? He said people who have their own business didn't build it"?  Then I see it can mean that OR it can refer the infrastructure in the prior sentence.  It isn't a gaffe in my book, but something calculated and said on purpose, probably generating the exact response it is now in some circles.

On my end, I have had the experience of both doing welfare and trying to build a business.

Honestly, I agree that it was probably referring to roads and bridges in the previous sentence.  However, I disagree completely that it wasn't a gaffe.  There is no way that it was some calculated move because it exposes Obama to a common attack by republicans, that he is weak on business.  In a down economy, that is exactly where you don't want to be.  Much more likely is Obama lost his place and missed a point and tried to go back and finish the thought.  

Look at the response killerzX has given in this thread.  And then as, if a normal person reads it, would the be inclined to agree, or would they think killerzX has gone bat loco nuts?  There was a bit of fumbling of words there, but the one would have to read the speech to see what it says.