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Soleron said:
digitalnasties said:
i had to remove Steam app from my Pc because of That.


There is a free progame called WinPatrol that you can use to stop progames from running at start up, and can make your PC run faster.

Don't do that.

Go to the search bar, type in msconfig and press Enter, go to Startup tab and untick Steam. 

Why would you run an annoying shareware program at all times to do the same?


Because only an idiot trust windows, WinPatrol monitors your computer for sensitive system changes and alerts you when they happen, i don't see windows doing that, i guess you also don't run firewalls and anti-virus software too because they also come in shareware versions too.



 

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digitalnasties said:
Soleron said:
digitalnasties said:
i had to remove Steam app from my Pc because of That.


There is a free progame called WinPatrol that you can use to stop progames from running at start up, and can make your PC run faster.

Don't do that.

Go to the search bar, type in msconfig and press Enter, go to Startup tab and untick Steam. 

Why would you run an annoying shareware program at all times to do the same?


Because only an idiot trust windows, WinPatrol monitors your computer for sensitive system changes and alerts you when they happen, i don't see windows doing that, i guess you also don't run firewalls and anti-virus software too because they also come in shareware versions too.

The built in firewall is good enough.

And no I don't run any antivirus because a little common sense plus always having the latest Windows Updates protects against all known malware, except zero-day attacks which antivirus doesn't work against anyway.

That program sounds like it slows your system down as much a virus would, if it polls every part of your system constantly.

What if this Winpatrol is logging your keystrokes and sending them back? Not saying it is, but how would you know?

I don't love Microsoft but I trust them because if they weren't doing their job on security, millions of business customers would be complaining.



Hahahahah what? You can stop it from logging on automatically from the settings....



digitalnasties said:
Soleron said:
digitalnasties said:
i had to remove Steam app from my Pc because of That.

There is a free progame called WinPatrol that you can use to stop progames from running at start up, and can make your PC run faster.

Don't do that.

Go to the search bar, type in msconfig and press Enter, go to Startup tab and untick Steam. 

Why would you run an annoying shareware program at all times to do the same?

Because only an idiot trust windows, WinPatrol monitors your computer for sensitive system changes and alerts you when they happen, i don't see windows doing that, i guess you also don't run firewalls and anti-virus software too because they also come in shareware versions too

MSE is my preferred choice of firewall/AV.

I also don't see the point of downloading an additional program just to stop a few startup programs running, and in the case of Steam there is even an option to stop it running on startup without going into msconfig.



Andrespetmonkey said:
There are still a lot more people playing on PC. If you just added WOW, LOL, SC2, BF3... and whatever the hell people in China and Russia are playing the numbers would be much higher than whatever OSN or XB LIVE is showing.

i have no doubt thar LOL and WoW are huge since LoL is free anyway, even i play that game sometimes. Bf3 not so much.

www.bf3stats.com

SC2 yes in Korea.



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Argh_College said:
Andrespetmonkey said:
There are still a lot more people playing on PC. If you just added WOW, LOL, SC2, BF3... and whatever the hell people in China and Russia are playing the numbers would be much higher than whatever OSN or XB LIVE is showing.

i have no doubt thar LOL and WoW are huge since LoL is free anyway, even i play that game sometimes. Bf3 not so much.

www.bf3stats.com

SC2 yes in Korea.

don't know what this is all about. we all know that console gaming is still bigger in countries like usa/uk and that pc gaming is bigger in some asian countries and as example in germany (if you compare it with ps3 as example). but steam almost doubled userbase in two years which is very good. with the next console gen, consoles start from 0 and steam or other services won't have to start from 0 anymore if it comes to the userbase able to play new games on that service.

 



Argh_College said:
Andrespetmonkey said:
There are still a lot more people playing on PC. If you just added WOW, LOL, SC2, BF3... and whatever the hell people in China and Russia are playing the numbers would be much higher than whatever OSN or XB LIVE is showing.

i have no doubt thar LOL and WoW are huge since LoL is free anyway, even i play that game sometimes. Bf3 not so much.

www.bf3stats.com

SC2 yes in Korea.


Most PC gamers don't even use steam, so using steam statistics cover only tiny fraction of PC gamers. Even those games bought from steam are mostly not on that statistic because you can easily play them offline and/or without starting steam. So, you can play HL2 etc but you are not shown in statistic. Heck, you can play HL2 online and you are still not shown in statistic.



Argh_College said:

So people like to say here, oh look at Steam put 5 milion concurrent users, thats more than XBL or PSN.

I must say this is a fake, the reason this happen is because when i and more milions of people turn their Pc on Steam begans automatically and we dont even know about it, it happens with me and all my friends who use Steam, i had to remove Steam app from my Pc because of That.

So every time someone with Steam turn on his Pc Steam starts and you dont even know, that explains the awfull statistics in game users.

Current Players Peak Today   Game
 
50,657 72,493   Dota 2
40,609 57,934   Team Fortress 2
36,426 53,108   Counter-Strike
29,991 58,090   Football Manager 2012
28,169 47,464   Counter-Strike: Source
20,011 35,392   Call of Duty Modern Warfare 3 - Multiplayer
19,693 50,779   Sid Meier's Civilization V
19,010 39,446   The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
7,874 16,837   Left 4 Dead 2
7,284 12,414   Garry's Mod

Last time i saw alone on Psn their were 350K people on Black Ops, that alone is more than everyone playing on Steam (Games) at the same time.

Probably over 600K at same time on Mw3 yesterday on Xbox Live.

So Steam numers are a Fake and games numbers are awfully low compared to Consoles.

On PS3 you can only game online with PSN.

On XBox360 you can online game online with LIVE.

With PC you have a choice between multiple programs, not just Steam.

 

What is the point of this thread?



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Argh_College said:
Andrespetmonkey said:
There are still a lot more people playing on PC. If you just added WOW, LOL, SC2, BF3... and whatever the hell people in China and Russia are playing the numbers would be much higher than whatever OSN or XB LIVE is showing.

i have no doubt thar LOL and WoW are huge since LoL is free anyway, even i play that game sometimes. Bf3 not so much.

www.bf3stats.com

SC2 yes in Korea.


These are just a few games. I don't know what games are big in China or Eastern europe but those territories alone have millions online at any given time. Piracy is also rampant there so are games there owned by multiple millions that we don't know about. I bet the biggest MMOs in China/taiwan/hong kong alone have more people playing than PSN or XBL.

But this is about Steam so I guess with only Steam considered, it's not as big as consoles. 



Soleron said:
digitalnasties said:
Soleron said:
digitalnasties said:
i had to remove Steam app from my Pc because of That.


There is a free progame called WinPatrol that you can use to stop progames from running at start up, and can make your PC run faster.

Don't do that.

Go to the search bar, type in msconfig and press Enter, go to Startup tab and untick Steam. 

Why would you run an annoying shareware program at all times to do the same?


Because only an idiot trust windows, WinPatrol monitors your computer for sensitive system changes and alerts you when they happen, i don't see windows doing that, i guess you also don't run firewalls and anti-virus software too because they also come in shareware versions too.

The built in firewall is good enough.

And no I don't run any antivirus because a little common sense plus always having the latest Windows Updates protects against all known malware, except zero-day attacks which antivirus doesn't work against anyway.

That program sounds like it slows your system down as much a virus would, if it polls every part of your system constantly.

What if this Winpatrol is logging your keystrokes and sending them back? Not saying it is, but how would you know?

I don't love Microsoft but I trust them because if they weren't doing their job on security, millions of business customers would be complaining.


That's fine if your on a redundant network, but no way would i connect to the internet without heuristic analysis, but even with the very best security software, there still no existing 100% secure computer connected to the net .