The bible says "The fool say there is no god". This is true.
Many read books like "The God Delusion" and reach this conclusion.

Wiser men (Hawkins, Dawkins and other great minds) say they do not believe in god.

Dawkins (author of the God Delusion) say he is 95% sure there is not God. He never said there is no God.

"I would rather live my life believing that Jesus is the son of God and die to find out there isn't than live my life believing that he's NOT and die to find out there is."

He said who He was.

 

New Living Translation (©2007)
Jesus told him, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one can come to the Father except through me.

 

I also want to point out clearly, Religion doesn't save your life. So then the next question is which ICONIC fIgure appeals to you the MOST?

"you say you know the answers to life, love, and happiness? Okay, prove it."

If anyone has any "proof" supporting one religion over another, then I welcome it. Sadly, you don't, so why is this thread even going?

you can't tell by the OP that this is a troll thread?

KeptoKnight said: I also want to point out clearly, Religion doesn't save your life. So then the next question is which ICONIC fIgure appeals to you the MOST?

You're saying people should believe what they most want to be true?

VXIII said: To answer you main point of this thread, God existence is the only thing that makes sense for me... the source of all "causes". Islam is the only religion that gave me such a God "Before eveything, after everything, and nothing else is like him".

Except that's even more unexplainable than the universe just starting on its own. Not only are you suggesting that an entity started on its own, which is the notion you disagree with, you also make it worse by suggesting that that thing is a supernatural thing who knows all, is all powerful, etc. You're contradicting yourself.

You disagree with the universe starting on its own. Your reasoning is: Nothing can just start in its own. Then you go to say God just sprang into existence. However that very sentence contradicts with your reasoning. Basicly your saying that something cannot start on its own, however, something can definitely start on its own, and that thing is actually a spirit, and it has a conscious, and it knows everything, and it can do everything, oh and it can be everywhere at the same time, etc. Sure, there could be a God, I can understand that. And I can understand wanting there to be a God. (I want there to be a God too). But when an intelligent person such as yourself says he believes there is a God, it just leaves me paralyzed with confusion.

I think the universe just starting on its own is more plausible than something starting and then throwing supernatural abilities on it. At least we have evidence that suggests the Big Bang happened. There is nothing to suggest that someone started the Big Bang. If you don't believe the Big Bang started on its own, then fine. But you don't have to believe. Don't just assume things because you need to know an answer. And definitely don't make it worse by bring in the supernatural.

Just because we don't know something, doesn't mean we should immediately just throw the supernatural label on it. That would be close-minded. Humanity still has a lot of years left to figure it out. There's no reasson to just try to answer by saying it was God. Don't be close-minded and don't assume things. Just accept that we don't know yet.

And if there was a God, you wouldn't know anything about it other than its power and knowledge. How do you know it loves you? How do you know it cares for you? How do you know its a female God? How do you know there aren't multiple Gods? And why does it have to be a spirit/being? Maybe God is actually a powerful object that accidently started the universe when it brushed up against another powerful object? Etc. There are so many unanswered questions with that hypothesis and there are so many assumed answers as well.

Anyway, I just don't like when people try to explain the unexplainable by slapping God on it. Just accept that at the moment, it cannot be explained. There's a lot of things on this planet and further off in the universe that we don't / didn't understand. If we always just slapped the supernatural card on it, that would be close-minded AND it would only make the situation even more enigmatic that what it already is.

Zappykins said: The one that says be good to each other, support each other, take care of yourself and help others.

This...

Because, no matter what you decide to do, you're not going to burn in hell for eternity, or at all...  Doesn't matter what you do with your life.  You're not going to be judged on your performance of life.  So, don't waste your life trying to please God, or, even worry about what happens.  God just wants you to immerse yourself in your life, and interact with others.  Doesn't matter how.  Don't be afraid that something is going to happen to you in the afterlife, because it wont.

In terms that you can understand, you get a clean slate when you die.  That in itself isn't entirely accurate, because I'm not going into detail on this, until, again, next year, when someone brings up the subject.  But, just... relax, don't stress yourself, and don't worry.  Enjoy yourself.  If you're enjoying yourself, and your life, you'll be great... if you're being more like me, and not enjoying yourself, then...  well, you're not going to be happy...

Make new friends, be happy, interact with other people, don't be a loner, and enjoy life.  This is all I'm going to be allowed to say for now.

Here is the inspiration for this thread. I was coming from the idea that even if I wanted to go to the right religion, it would be impossible to find it. The reason I say right is because some religions praise different Gods and some religions claim that if you don't praise their God, then you go to Hell. It's only like a minute long, so give it a watch.

I agree with the video... but, i'm not atheist, nor do I take part in any religion.

Soleron said: no matter how many theories we come up with it wouldn't be enough because there must be a point where it all started. that point is god. that's my simple logic to believe. OK, let's call that point God. How, then, do you know it has the properties usually ascribed to got - omniscience, omnipotence, goodness, that he cares about the life on Earth, that he wrote and delivered scriptures? Even if God is outside science's reach, his actions (miracles, scripture) are very real things that can be tested.

Uh oh, someone's onto something.. Can't say who, because their name isn't in the quote.  Soleron, what you're doing is like describing water when you've never seen it before...

Burning Typhoon said: I agree with the video... but, i'm not atheist, nor do I take part in any religion.

so...agnostic? Do you believe in a deity?

Jay520 said: Burning Typhoon said: I agree with the video... but, i'm not atheist, nor do I take part in any religion. so...agnostic? Do you believe in a deity?

I don't know, you tell me. lol, what else is there?  All the complication with religion and such.  People; atheists, rather, seem to think God is something that is 100% associated with religion.  So, if they don't see fit to follow a religion, then, God, must... not exist... not the case at all..

Some believe in aliens, just about everyone believes there's consciousness.  But, you can't prove either one.  Something as... intangable as consciousness... How do you explain it..  Sorry, I can't go any deeper into that subject.

People can find out the secrets of the unknown, but...  It's kinda like the shoe in monopoly figuring out that it's a playing piece in a game, and then, finding out all the rules to the game before it's over.