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S.T.A.G.E. on 21 July 2012

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So does that mean console gamers are subsidising PC gamers?

In a way yes. The console gamers should be getting these sales, because if you look at where the majority of the money in sales comes from for the top titles the console games should get first pick. Luckily PC for PC gamers they dont take shit from anyone, so they dont have to pay for Windows Live and they get some of the best multiplats in bundles that console gamers paid top dollar for.

I dont think so at all. If i make a great game and sell it at $50 and sell 100 copies i would of made $5000. if i charge $25 for the game but sell 200 copies im still losing nothing as i would of still made $5000. I know it might be a bad way of putting it, but i think they sell alot more with the cheaper prices and well make their money back.

I am sure with a sale of this sort Steam just raised the PC monthly sales percentage. I am sure the sales were up and over 100%. That should speak louder than anything. Im not bitching about it, but Im not taking it anymore if I know theres an alternative. My former alternative was to wait until console games dropped in price. Steam sales outside of PC are unheard of in the console realm. Stores and publishers see too much profit from console gamers.

This +1 . Thats exactly why Console owners pay alot more then PC gamers for their games. Plus a Dev doesnt need to pay anything to make games on the PC. Im about 90% sure they have to give the console makers a % of what the game sells. Now i know steam gets a cut for what they sell, but id imagine it would be alot less then what the console makers charge??.

Im sure Steam makes quite a bit as Steam is probably the major purchasing site for games on PC. If they didnt recieve equal royalty to console makers at this point I would be surprised. I can see why contractually publishers would hold back on them though, but it would be stupid to pi

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S.T.A.G.E. on 21 July 2012

zero129 said:

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binary solo said:
So does that mean console gamers are subsidising PC gamers?

In a way yes. The console gamers should be getting these sales, because if you look at where the majority of the money in sales comes from for the top titles the console games should get first pick. Luckily PC for PC gamers they dont take shit from anyone, so they dont have to pay for Windows Live and they get some of the best multiplats in bundles that console gamers paid top dollar for.

I dont think so at all. If i make a great game and sell it at $50 and sell 100 copies i would of made $5000. if i charge $25 for the game but sell 200 copies im still losing nothing as i would of still made $5000. I know it might be a bad way of putting it, but i think they sell alot more with the cheaper prices and well make their money back.

I am sure with a sale of this sort Steam just raised the PC monthly sales percentage. I am sure the sales were up and over 100%. That should speak louder than anything. Im not bitching about it, but Im not taking it anymore if I know theres an alternative. My former alternative was to wait until console games dropped in price. Steam sales outside of PC are unheard of in the console realm. Stores and publishers see too much profit from console gamers.

This +1 . Thats exactly why Console owners pay alot more then PC gamers for their games. Plus a Dev doesnt need to pay anything to make games on the PC. Im about 90% sure they have to give the console makers a % of what the game sells. Now i know steam gets a cut for what they sell, but id imagine it would be alot less then what the console makers charge??.

Im sure Steam makes quite a bit as Steam is probably the major purchasing site for games on PC. If they didnt recieve equal royalty to console makers at this point I would be surprised. I can see why contractually publishers would hold back on them though, but it would be stupid to piss them off because PC gamers respond with sales numbers and Console centric publishers aren't fans of those.

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happydolphin on 21 July 2012

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Thats the great thing about Steam, the game is always with you and for the price you pay I doubt having a hard copy even matters. This is coming from a guy who is pro hard copy games. If I can get games at rental prices and keep them on a Steam account? Screw the hard copy lol.

I feel good about the fact that I knew this :)

I remember you saying that you were big on keeping physical copies, but the deals seemed to be so amazing that it caused you to put that aside. I'm kinda happy for ya.

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This +1 . Thats exactly why Console owners pay alot more then PC gamers for their games. Plus a Dev doesnt need to pay anything to make games on the PC. Im about 90% sure they have to give the console makers a % of what the game sells. Now i know steam gets a cut for what they sell, but id imagine it would be alot less then what the console makers charge??.

Im sure Steam makes quite a bit as Steam is probably the major purchasing site for games on PC. If they didnt recieve equal royalty to console makers at this point I would be surprised. I can see why contractually publishers would hold back on them though, but it would be stupid to piss them off because PC gamers respond with sales numbers and Console centric publishers aren't fans of those.

Yes, Valve gets a % of the sales. Which is a better and more fair method than the fixed royalties used on consoles.

Btw, does anyone know much are those royalties? Some say they are as much as 10$/€ because that's the usual price difference between new releases on consoles and PC, but that seems a bit too much.

About consoles games and their prices, the lack of this kind of sales comes from stores and publishers. If you look at Ubisoft, they do it quite well, droping the price of its games after about 6 months with another drop 1 year after, usually going 60 => 30 => 20 $/€. But other publishers are more greedy and almost never drop the price of their better selling games (Nintendo, Activision, ...).

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Sirstopp on 21 July 2012

Steam has done something very similar to me as well. I used to be 100% against DD, and even refused to buy some games because of it.

But then I saw a Steam sale and the rest is history.

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No Trophy, no buy.

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S.T.A.G.E. on 21 July 2012

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No Trophy, no buy.

Steam has acievements.

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No Trophy, no buy.

Steam has acievements.

Yes, but I perdict you will regret wasting your precious gaming hours on Steam achievements and wish that you'd have putted them in hunting Trophies instead.

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