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Aielyn on 03 July 2012
JEMC said:
I'm sorry but the biggest selling point of CoD is its multiplayer. Do you really believe that people that have spent hours on the Xbox/PS3 multiplayer, that knows/recognizes a lot of nicks and have learned who to avoid and who to go with, are waiting for the WiiU version (from which we know almost nothing about its online) to be announced?

I'm sorry but I have to disagree with you.

The biggest selling point of CoD is gameplay, in the form of multiplayer. If people feel that they'll get a better total gameplay experience out of the Wii U version, that version will sell better.

What I find hilarious is that you think that people wouldn't wait to learn about the Wii U version before putting money down on a version, and the reason is that we don't know enough about the Wii U version. As for "recognising nicks", I think you vastly overestimate the number of people who play it to that extent, and do so with significant knowledge of who is who. We're talking about a multiplayer that involves millions of people, and for which most of them play it purely for fun, without much care about who they're playing against. The core of players that play it to such a hardcore level (note: I don't mean "hardcore gamers" - that's a nonsense term) number maybe in the tens of thousands.



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Aielyn on 03 July 2012
man-bear-pig said:
I don't think the launch of the Wii U will have ANY effect on CoDs sales. They are targeting completely different markets imo.

Let me guess - you think the Wii U is targetting "casual gamers", and that most CoD players are "hardcore gamers", right?

Pro tip: Most CoD players are more "casual" than your typical Farmville player, and as casual as your typical Just Dance player.

Pro tip 2: Nintendo has been pretty clear that they're trying to get *everyone*. Hence Mass Effect 3, hence Ninja Gaiden 3, hence ZombiU. They want to have the definitive console, providing games for everybody.

Pro tip 3: "Markets" aren't what you think they are. Perhaps try learning a little bit about business and the differences between demographics, markets, customers, and consumers. It might be enlightening. (hint: Nintendo's real market is actually the third parties).



man-bear-pig on 03 July 2012
Aielyn said:
man-bear-pig said:
I don't think the launch of the Wii U will have ANY effect on CoDs sales. They are targeting completely different markets imo.

Let me guess - you think the Wii U is targetting "casual gamers", and that most CoD players are "hardcore gamers", right?

Pro tip: Most CoD players are more "casual" than your typical Farmville player, and as casual as your typical Just Dance player.

Pro tip 2: Nintendo has been pretty clear that they're trying to get *everyone*. Hence Mass Effect 3, hence Ninja Gaiden 3, hence ZombiU. They want to have the definitive console, providing games for everybody.

Pro tip 3: "Markets" aren't what you think they are. Perhaps try learning a little bit about business and the differences between demographics, markets, customers, and consumers. It might be enlightening. (hint: Nintendo's real market is actually the third parties).


Lol.



My prediction threads:

Wii U will sell under 40m units (made on 14th September 2012)

PS Vita will sell under 20m units (made on 30th September 2012)

Wii U will sell under 7m in 2013 - I was right

Halo 4 first 9 weeks sales prediction

PS4 to be down YOY in 2015

JEMC on 03 July 2012
Aielyn said:
JEMC said:
I'm sorry but the biggest selling point of CoD is its multiplayer. Do you really believe that people that have spent hours on the Xbox/PS3 multiplayer, that knows/recognizes a lot of nicks and have learned who to avoid and who to go with, are waiting for the WiiU version (from which we know almost nothing about its online) to be announced?

I'm sorry but I have to disagree with you.

The biggest selling point of CoD is gameplay, in the form of multiplayer. If people feel that they'll get a better total gameplay experience out of the Wii U version, that version will sell better.

What I find hilarious is that you think that people wouldn't wait to learn about the Wii U version before putting money down on a version, and the reason is that we don't know enough about the Wii U version. As for "recognising nicks", I think you vastly overestimate the number of people who play it to that extent, and do so with significant knowledge of who is who. We're talking about a multiplayer that involves millions of people, and for which most of them play it purely for fun, without much care about who they're playing against. The core of players that play it to such a hardcore level (note: I don't mean "hardcore gamers" - that's a nonsense term) number maybe in the tens of thousands.

Maybe I've word it wrongly, but what I ment to say is, and you recognized it, that people play CoD because it's multliplayer yet we know almost nothing about WiiU's online, not the game but the system.

And since WiiU's online is still a mystery, the majority will pre-order the game for their existing console, console that their friends probably also have and that use to play online together.

Now, is it possible that some of those people change their pre-order if there is a WiiU version that is better than the PS360 one AND the system's online is good enough? Sure. But not many.



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Jay520 on 03 July 2012

i thought it was agreed that BO2's preorders were undertracked?



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mike_intellivision on 03 July 2012

I think this may be the tipping point for the CoD franchise.

In other words, I look for Black Ops 2 not to outsell Modern Warfare 3 -- especially if there is no WiiU version (which is still not officially confirmed). There were more than 1M Wii sales for that title -- and it has never gone down in price (unlike the higher selling versions on the HD consoles).

(For what it is worth, four of the five MW's on Wii sold 1M. Only MW3 failed to reach that -- perhaps because there was no MW2 on Wii. CoD3 sold over 2M.

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NintendoPie on 03 July 2012
Andrespetmonkey said:
NintendoPie said:

Me prediction is that your prediction is wrong.

People will always be interested in CoD, it's the sad truth.

Just like they were always interested in Tony Hawk and Guitar Hero?

It's going to decline eventually, wouldn't be surprised if it's BO2 that starts it (will still sell a fuckton), which is sad because it's the first COD in a while to step away from the established formula and try something new.

I doubt BO2 will not sell to the caliper of the others.

It'll decline, but it'll take forever.



oniyide on 03 July 2012
Aielyn said:
JEMC said:
I'm sorry but the biggest selling point of CoD is its multiplayer. Do you really believe that people that have spent hours on the Xbox/PS3 multiplayer, that knows/recognizes a lot of nicks and have learned who to avoid and who to go with, are waiting for the WiiU version (from which we know almost nothing about its online) to be announced?

I'm sorry but I have to disagree with you.

The biggest selling point of CoD is gameplay, in the form of multiplayer. If people feel that they'll get a better total gameplay experience out of the Wii U version, that version will sell better.

What I find hilarious is that you think that people wouldn't wait to learn about the Wii U version before putting money down on a version, and the reason is that we don't know enough about the Wii U version. As for "recognising nicks", I think you vastly overestimate the number of people who play it to that extent, and do so with significant knowledge of who is who. We're talking about a multiplayer that involves millions of people, and for which most of them play it purely for fun, without much care about who they're playing against. The core of players that play it to such a hardcore level (note: I don't mean "hardcore gamers" - that's a nonsense term) number maybe in the tens of thousands.


You really believe that millions of people are waiting for the Wii U version?? You think people are going to buy a whole new console just to play COD, a game that can already be played on the console of their choice?? The game would have to be MUCH better on Wii U for that to happen.  Im not even going to get into the MASSIVE online community that those games have on both consoles. Few will sure, I when i say few, i mean a couple thousand. maybe even a mil tops



oldschoolfool on 03 July 2012

I could see that. This might be the first cod game that I won't get,I'm just bored with the franchise,but I still think it's going to be a great game and hope it does well.



BHR-3 on 03 July 2012

hey new member edit (oh shit your not new at all) i own a 92 and 90 camaro iroc an z28 both heavily modded 350 and 383 tpi's. i only like them up to 92, i hate the new 5th gen ones to heavy, interior is claustrophobic, rear doesnt look good but happy that there back

bout the thread i like COD im not a online freak though i perfer TPS. ps3 version wont outsell 360 LT or 1st week, dont think that BO2 will sell much less than MW3 most thought this with BO (that it wont perform well b/c its from tryarch) until i owned. . . again http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=116902



                                                             

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