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Andrespetmonkey said:

LBP is all about creativity and user-generated content.

Yes. And that has what to do with demographics?



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crissindahouse said:

because it is too much. you said there is also wario and so on but you simply see they are all from the same "world". wario or luigi aren't mario but they cleary have the same art style.

i love halo and the master chief but i would hate to get a racing game with master chief, a jump&run with a grunt and tennis game with cortana and whatever. ok better than not getting them but i would rather like to see nintendo bringing more games with totally different characters with totally different art style which don't remind you that it is still just a character out of the mario world.

They actually don't have the same style.

Let's say we get a Mario Tennis, NSMB, and a... Mario Kart in the span of a year or so. That's perfect! They all have different play styles and characters.

But, when we get two 2D Mario's that is when it gets ridiculous. (Ala, this year with NSMBU and NSMB2.)



milkyjoe said:
Andrespetmonkey said:

LBP is all about creativity and user-generated content.

Yes. And that has what to do with demographics?


What a game is about doesn't have anything to do with who it appeals too?

You said Mario and LBP have practically the same appeal, LBP is all about what Mario isn't. (creativity and user-generated content). The only thing they have in common is being a platformer...



bananaking21 said:
Significant_leap said:
People dont hate Mario, Sony and Msoft fanboys hate Mario because it gets amazing ratings and lots of sales...more than they beloved "mature" franchises...its called envy


this is a stupid answer and a way to think about it, people could call me a sony fanboy but honestly i just really love sony games and playstation consoles. but i dont hate mario, i actually love him! (Good for you! We need more Sony fans like you.) but what people hate is not the franshise its the way nintendo treats the franshise, everything they make is either mario or zelda (Let me stop you right there. Zelda is not made that much. I think it is on a yearly level, correct? That's one Zelda game a year, you are acting like they make at least 2 Zelda games in a year. Which would be dumb.) (for consoles) and mario is just freaking everywhere! It's their mascott, of course he is! they been milking the franshise for about 30 years now, its just way to much! the N64 is my second favorite console and i probably finished super mario 64 a million times, but after that nintendo did nothing new with the franshise, well nothing major. mario 64 was a jump from the 2D world to the 3D, but after that what happened? (Is there really that much to do to it? If you change it too much it wouldn't even be a Mario game.) yes new gameplay but what about the story? "bowser kindnapped the prinsess go save him mario!" thats literally the hole story...... 





I think Mario started sucking this gen, Sunshine is one of my fave game but I never liked the Galaxy games and they milk the franchise, 9 Mario games in 2 years is exaggerating too much.



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People on Vgchartz make me cringe. So if I dislike Nintendo and Mario games I'm jealous of their success and I'm a hater? Not the case, some people take gaming far too seriously, I just don't care. I loved Mario games when I was 5-10, however they've been the same regurgitated games for as long as I can remember and I've outgrown them.

I dislike Nintendo for their focus on children orientated low-budget games and the fact they have only created one noteworthy new IP (Smash Bros) in the last 20 years, they just remake the same old games over and over again and milk the one truly successful IP they have, Mario, which is why people are getting bored of that character and franchise. I don't hate Nintendo and Mario for the sake of hating, I genuinely wish I did love them because the more things I find appealing the more things I can enjoy.

I'd say children love Mario because he's a generic little friendly plumber, the games have no story to pay attention to and the games are easy to pick up and play, they don't sell so well because they are in any way shape or form better than games like God of War, Gears of War, Uncharted, Heavy Rain, Halo, Bioshock, Mass Effect, Alan Wake, infamous etc. It's simply for the fact Mario is the must buy game for parents to buy their young children to play (of course there are older Mario fans too but I think they're a minority) and Nintendo puts all their effort in making Mario huge unlike Sony or Microsoft who have so many great IPs to support that they can't put so much effort into just one IP, although Microsoft have done a great job with Halo and Gears of War and Sony did a good job with Uncharted and Gran Turismo (No I didn't forget about God of War, Sony just haven't bothered to make any effort to market it so the games had to sell themselves).

Just to put it out there, I actually still own a Gamecube and a Wii. They were given to me as gifts from someone who obviously doesn't know me so well and I couldn't sell them because that would make me look like an ungrateful bastard, that said I wish they'd just given me money instead...



Andrespetmonkey said:
milkyjoe said:
Andrespetmonkey said:

LBP is all about creativity and user-generated content.

Yes. And that has what to do with demographics?


What a game is about doesn't have anything to do with who it appeals too?

You said Mario and LBP have practically the same appeal, LBP is all about what Mario isn't. (creativity and user-generated content). The only thing they have in common is being a platformer...

It can, but in this instance the demographics clearly match up, so it's entirely moot.



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Andrespetmonkey said:

Maybe Pikmin 3 has garnered more interest because it's something fresh from Nintendo. Sure, it's not a new IP, I do notice the "3" in the title, but it's fairly new and hasn't had countless predeccessors, or it's main character(s) hasn't stared in countless other games.

OT: Personally, I just find Mario completely uninteresting, and I can't see why anyone over the age of 12 doesn't feel the same unless they're just nostalgic. Nintendo doesn't seem to be doing anything meaningful (to the gamer) with the Character, he's pretty just a money-maker. E.g. What does Mario have to do with Tennis? Something like Super Mario Galaxy could of been a new IP, but it was a Mario game because they played it safe and knew it would sell a ton. Now, that's a great business decision, but for someone like me, seeing Mario plastered across the title of a gazilion different games is tiresome.

It is quite annoying to see Mario "plastered" on almost everything. Even many Nintendo Fans feel Mario needs more breaks between titles. (Like Mario games only 2-4 times a year depending on a new console release.)

Btw, Mario Galaxy Series was thought up to be a Mario Game. That's what they wanted and decided it to be.



NintendoPie said:
Andrespetmonkey said:

Maybe Pikmin 3 has garnered more interest because it's something fresh from Nintendo. Sure, it's not a new IP, I do notice the "3" in the title, but it's fairly new and hasn't had countless predeccessors, or it's main character(s) hasn't stared in countless other games.

OT: Personally, I just find Mario completely uninteresting, and I can't see why anyone over the age of 12 doesn't feel the same unless they're just nostalgic. Nintendo doesn't seem to be doing anything meaningful (to the gamer) with the Character, he's pretty just a money-maker. E.g. What does Mario have to do with Tennis? Something like Super Mario Galaxy could of been a new IP, but it was a Mario game because they played it safe and knew it would sell a ton. Now, that's a great business decision, but for someone like me, seeing Mario plastered across the title of a gazilion different games is tiresome.

It is quite annoying to see Mario "plastered" on almost everything. Even many Nintendo Fans feel Mario needs more breaks between titles. (Like Mario games only 2-4 times a year depending on a new console release.)

Btw, Mario Galaxy Series was thought up to be a Mario Game. That's what they wanted and decided it to be.

Yeah, I just feel like having so many studios work on Mario games like Mario Tennis is wasted potential and talent.



milkyjoe said:
Andrespetmonkey said:
milkyjoe said:
Andrespetmonkey said:

LBP is all about creativity and user-generated content.

Yes. And that has what to do with demographics?


What a game is about doesn't have anything to do with who it appeals too?

You said Mario and LBP have practically the same appeal, LBP is all about what Mario isn't. (creativity and user-generated content). The only thing they have in common is being a platformer...

It can, but in this instance the demographics clearly match up, so it's entirely moot.

Sorry, I'm not sure what you're getting at. What can?