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videogamesrule on 26 June 2012

You guys need to stop fighting it's all opinion anyways. I realized how stupid this is and at the end of the day everyone(will not everyone but you get the idea) will still love and buy mario games but because of this many others will find it generic,dull, or milked. WHO CARES! He's a fictional charecter created by a company all about greed like every other company.



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MDMAlliance on 26 June 2012
videogamesrule said:
You guys need to stop fighting it's all opinion anyways. I realized how stupid this is and at the end of the day everyone(will not everyone but you get the idea) will still love and buy mario games but because of this many others will find it generic,dull, or milked. WHO CARES! He's a fictional charecter created by a company all about greed like every other company.


lol /thread?



bananaking21 on 26 June 2012
MDMAlliance said:
bananaking21 said:
MDMAlliance said:
bananaking21 said:
MDMAlliance said:
bananaking21 said:
MDMAlliance said:

I did reply to your argument.  You said Mario is the most generic game and listed reasons why you think so, and I countered it by saying you were wrong on those points.  The game changed fundamentally in all those reiterations throughout those years, and one of the only things that link them together is either the genre or the fact that Mario is in it.  


firstly this is all a mater of opinion i should mention this. secondly in terms of story? no its simply the same, how is it defferent?people here been saying it doesnt have any story defending mario that way, i guess it proves my point.  the worlds are different and it would be stupid to call mario generic in that way, really stupid. but going on to charecters? come on not even nintendo can state that they arenet generic. art style, the graphics are different from one another but you can spot a mario game directly when looking at a screen even if you never played it before, the models and texutres have the same direction as the games before it, understand the worlds are vastly different and look extremely different but the direction of the art is still the same. as for sound its still the same you cant argue about that. also story telling and story are VERY DIFFERENT you might have an awesome story but tell it in a crappy way and you might have a crappy story but tell it in an awesome way and make it sound good. mario has both bad story telling and a bad story


Paper Mario, Mario RPG, Luigi's Mansion (which doesn't deserve to be clumped as a Mario game), Mario Galaxy, Super Mario World (barely a story, but still), Yoshi Story, and more.  


ok how about this, explain the story of any of these games and i will compare it to god of war or red dead redemptions story you chose and lets see the who comes out better? agreed?


That's wholly up to the person, it's pointless to argue it.

not necessarily, i mean no one can argue that machete is a better movie than inception. same might happen here

You're acting like Mario has a broken story, when the games I listed clearly do not.

sorry if i did ! i sometimes forget that people online cant hear my tone! i dont mean to be a jerk or argue i just like discussing video games! again sorry if i seemed like a jerk. honestly i dont know the story of paper mario or lugi's mansion personally i am talking about the major mario releases



small44 on 26 June 2012

I hate it because the majority love the game



PS4 - over 100 millions let's say 120m
Xbox One - 70m
Wii U - 25m

Vita - 15m if it will not get Final Fantasy Kingdoms Heart and Monster Hunter 20m otherwise
3DS - 80m

Andrespetmonkey on 26 June 2012
richardhutnik said:
Andrespetmonkey said:
Kyuubi Ricky SSJ2 said:
Andrespetmonkey said:
OT: Personally, I just find Mario completely uninteresting, and I can't see why anyone over the age of 12 doesn't feel the same 

You can't say that and then have a pic of Little Big Planet in your sig or Domo in your avatar, it's completely contradictory.

Why? LBP appeals to mature gamers as much as children IMO, everyone is creative. And I don't find the sackboy character interesting, it's the game that I think is awesome. As for Domo... it's just something I liked when I was little, and someone got me the poster so... yeah, not much more explanation needed.

You knocked Mario games because you don't find Mario interesting.  You also don't find Sackboy interesting, but find the game awesome.  Remind me how exactly LittleBigPlanet somehow has that much superior gaming than what Mario is in, since that seems to be youar argument.  Difference between a Mario game, as a platformer and LBP, is the draw of Mario platformers (and other games) are professionally created levels.  The appeal of LBP is levels designed by fans.  I say this being a big fan of LBP, and even Sackboy.  I tip a hat to Mario, because Nintendo, in my view, uses Mario in good games.

That's not my argument, I'm not really sure what you're saying there.

There are a few key differences here.

1) Mario Tennis for example, just comes across as purely a cash grab. Why is a studio making that when they could be making countlessly more compelling titles? What a waste of talent. It exists solely because Ninty knows it'll sell. As a core gamer, doesn't that bother you? 

LBP has a large core audience and community, of course it makes Sony money, but it's also doing some fantastic things for core gamers. Mario tennis brings nothing to core gamers. That's one of my point, not about Mario as a character, but the way it's used.

2) I'll give you a direct quote from me: "seeing Mario plastered across the title of a gazilion different games is tiresome." I don't need to explain how this differs to what happens with Sackboy. 

3) Sackboy isn't even the star of any game, he's the default model in LBP games that you personalise and customise.

Basically, I'm saying Ninty doesn't seem to be doing anything meaningful to the core gamer with Mario aside from Super mario bros and Super Mario Galaxy. As a core gamer, I'd rather Nintendo use developers to their full potential instead of making Mario tennis or Mario party or Dr. Mario or whatever Mario. These games are good, sure, but it annoys me that those devs are held back because Mario will make Ninty money. It extra annoys me because I don't find Mario interesting in the slightest. But my main beef isn't with the actual character, but how he's used.



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Andrespetmonkey on 26 June 2012
milkyjoe said:
Andrespetmonkey said:
Kyuubi Ricky SSJ2 said:
Andrespetmonkey said:
OT: Personally, I just find Mario completely uninteresting, and I can't see why anyone over the age of 12 doesn't feel the same 

You can't say that and then have a pic of Little Big Planet in your sig or Domo in your avatar, it's completely contradictory.

Why? LBP appeals to mature gamers as much as children IMO, everyone is creative. And I don't find the sackboy character interesting, it's the game that I think is awesome. As for Domo... it's just something I liked when I was little, and someone got me the poster so... yeah, not much more explanation needed.

I can't get my head around the idea that Mario doesn't appeal to a wide demographic but LBP does. They have practically identical appeal, the only difference between the two is that LBP obviously has a massively inferior fanbase.

LBP is all about creativity and user-generated content.



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SnakeDrake on 26 June 2012
richardhutnik said:
SnakeDrake said:
I dont hate mario but I dont find him appealing


But even nitendo fans forgets that he makes bad games sometimes

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LijfLK5DKY

A number of those are debatable, based on preferences.  I don't think Piccross or Wrecking Crew stinks.  And Super Mario Bros. 2 isn't in keeping with other Mario platformers, and was another game, but was it bad?

Idk i haven't playstation d the american version of SMB2 lol

But you can check out avgn he made a vid about it sorry cant provide the link. posting on a vitaXD 

Anyways from what I played warioware and mario party were not exactly quality games





 

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RedInker on 26 June 2012

People hate him due to his success and popularity.



osed125 on 26 June 2012

I think the reason why they hate it is because Nintendo really likes to overuse the character, even though he appears on different genres (sports, 2D and 3D platforms, RPGs, etc) and also because it is the main character of a company which a lot of people hate 



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NintendoPie on 26 June 2012
supermario128 said:
NintendoPie said:
Because Reggie thinks we want 50 Mario games in the span of a year.

We keep shouting, "Give us more! We want over a billion Mario Games!"


Haha. Even though there are a lot of Mario games they are all different. You have Super Mario games which are the main platformer games, you have Mario Kart for racing, Paper Mario, Mario Sports (Golf, tennis, basketball, soccer, baseball, etc.), Mario Party, Mario RPG's, Mario Pinball, Dr. Mario, Mario Paint, Mario and Sonic, Mario Vs. Donkey Kong, Mario and Luigi, and more.

If they were all the same type of game people would get tired of him, but because his games are actually of high quality, very fun, and diverse people will continue to buy in. Mario will be around forever.

I'm mainly talking about the 2D Series, of course.

I don't mind several Mario games in a year as long as they are different. So, Let's take a look at this year. (Not sure if I'm right on all release dates so don't take this as fact.)

We get; Paper Mario, Mario Tennis, and NSMBU. Great! Perfect! Amazing!..... Hold up... we also get NSMB2 in addition to NSMBU.......... >_>

That's what I meant. XD