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Conegamer on 20 June 2012
VicViper said:
Conegamer said:

I think that, had Nintendo releasd B&W2 a week earlier, things would be very different. As such, I'd imagine a huge increase for 3DS, and a decrease for the Vita, a heavy one (25k? Less?)

To me Vita will drop to 20-22k.

Persona will have legs. It's the must buy game. It'll reach 250k easily, imo.

Yeah, Persona will sell well, but Vita will be back below 20k in a couple weeks, and around 10k in a month or so, if not sooner.

It's not a long-lasting bump like the 3DS, sadly.



 

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VicViper on 20 June 2012

People are underestimating Pokémon effect on 3DS

Not only it has two major 3DS features (3D pokedex and Pokemon AR searcher) the hardware price is going to attract a lot of kids.

I say 3DS will pass 100k



Pokemonbrawlvg on 20 June 2012

@Conegamer I think so. Around that I would say if they keep the supply up and continue advertising it.

Here's the list of Vita games coming in July:

Dokuro: 7/5
Resistance Burning Skies: 7/12
Time Travelers (also coming out for 3DS and PSP): 7/12
Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 2012: 7/19

I think the baseball is popular in Japan, so another increase I think. I'll have to check.



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manuel on 20 June 2012
spurgeonryan said:
Train wreck said:
If an obscure game like persona 4 can cause the vita to double in sales, cant wait until an actual system seller graces the system. But even this is not going to be enough for the haters.


I thought that in Japan, the Persona series was pretty big?


Indeed.

In Japan the Persona series is not considered obscure. It's quite big.



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outlawauron on 20 June 2012
Conegamer said:
Boutros said:
Conegamer said:
spurgeonryan said:
Train wreck said:
If an obscure game like persona 4 can cause the vita to double in sales, cant wait until an actual system seller graces the system. But even this is not going to be enough for the haters.


I thought that in Japan, the Persona series was pretty big?


It's not as big as Dragon Quest of Monster Hunter, but it's bigger than the Tales...Series, and you'd expect a new game in the series to sell around 200-300k FW, if not more.

What what what?!?

There's no way the Persona series is bigger than the Tales series...

Persona isn't that big in Japan.

Sales suggest otherwise. Looking at LT sales for the main 4 Persona games in Japan, they have an average of around 350k, not including remakes.

Tales of games LT sales are around 350k also, but there's much more up-and-down than Persona, and the real heavy-hitters came back in the PS days, with only Xilla breaking this trend.

I'd say if a brand new Tales games, and a brand new Persona game were to be released on the 3DS/Vita, both would acheive very similar sales numbers. So calling Persona 'obscure' is well off the mark. Certainly a remake of a Persona game is bigger than a remake of a Tales game, even if the main series isn't as popular overall (though it is gaining traction).

Sales number directly prove you wrong. Persona games on consoles get outsold by Tales games on consoles. The same situation happens on  portables. I don't even see how you can make a case for Persona being larger than Tales. It's not close.



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Boutros on 20 June 2012
Conegamer said:
Boutros said:
Conegamer said:
spurgeonryan said:
Train wreck said:
If an obscure game like persona 4 can cause the vita to double in sales, cant wait until an actual system seller graces the system. But even this is not going to be enough for the haters.


I thought that in Japan, the Persona series was pretty big?


It's not as big as Dragon Quest of Monster Hunter, but it's bigger than the Tales...Series, and you'd expect a new game in the series to sell around 200-300k FW, if not more.

What what what?!?

There's no way the Persona series is bigger than the Tales series...

Persona isn't that big in Japan.

Sales suggest otherwise. Looking at LT sales for the main 4 Persona games in Japan, they have an average of around 350k, not including remakes.

Tales of games LT sales are around 350k also, but there's much more up-and-down than Persona, and the real heavy-hitters came back in the PS days, with only Xilla breaking this trend.

I'd say if a brand new Tales games, and a brand new Persona game were to be released on the 3DS/Vita, both would acheive very similar sales numbers. So calling Persona 'obscure' is well off the mark. Certainly a remake of a Persona game is bigger than a remake of a Tales game, even if the main series isn't as popular overall (though it is gaining traction).

Even so the highest first week for a Persona game is 200k (both Persona 1 and Persona 4 reached that mark) and the lifetime record is just above 400k (Persona 1). The franchise has only sold 1.65 million in Japan (without Persona 4 Golden).

Tales of Vesperia was released on the 360 so of course it held back the sales and the same goes for Tales of Graces. They then got ported on the PS3 where they both sold as much as Persona 4 even though they were late ports. Tales of Xillia is not an exception. It's simply Namco finally not making a bad decision.

I would go as far as saying that the Tales of series is twice bigger than the Persona series in terms of revenue.



Pokemonbrawlvg on 20 June 2012

@VicViper Oh, I wasn't looking at launch numbers. Guess this it. Both games are remakes of well-known and famours franchises, ironically. Now if Sony would only pull off a price cut... I know they won't for some time. They said this over and over again that they won't.



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VicViper on 20 June 2012
spurgeonryan said:
VicViper said:


It's a Gon: The Dinossaur game

 

Great manga

You have a link for gameplay? I cannot seem to find any on youtube.

 

 

@ Pokebrawlvg

 

Time Travellers could be big there. It is coming on the 3DS as well though.


It's coming for PSP too.

It'll be another fail in Level-5 once perfect record.

It's a freaking QTE story game. Simply the "death" of gameplay, to me.



Panama on 20 June 2012

I remember telling a friend if Golden doesn't break 100k and the Vita 20k this week Sony might as well declare the thing dead in Japan. Nice to see they did well enough.



Sal.Paradise on 20 June 2012
Conegamer said:
spurgeonryan said:
Train wreck said:
If an obscure game like persona 4 can cause the vita to double in sales, cant wait until an actual system seller graces the system. But even this is not going to be enough for the haters.


I thought that in Japan, the Persona series was pretty big?


It's not as big as Dragon Quest of Monster Hunter, but it's bigger than the Tales...Series, and you'd expect a new game in the series to sell around 200-300k FW, if not more.

Persona bigger than Tales? Where the hell do you get that from? Maybe you're just trying to downplay the numbers being notably above your predictions. Understandable