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Is Mormonism a Cult?

Yes, Mormonism is a dangerous cult! 42 38.18%
 
Yes, Mormonism is a cult,... 32 29.09%
 
No, Mormonism is not a Cu... 30 27.27%
 
I don't know. 4 3.64%
 
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Kasz216 on 18 June 2012
thranx said:
EdHieron said:
thranx said:
No. From all of the mormons i have met it seems to be the best religion. They really look after each other and have a tight knit community. None of them ever tried to convert me in any way either. And they all seemed to be well adjusted people.


Looking after each other and having a tight knit community is often a way of hiding secrets see The Branch Davidians and the FLDS.  And as the video that I posted earlier on page 2 of the forum from styxhexenhammer666 says the "And I'm a Mormon" campaign that they plaster all over youtube and on humongous billboards in major cities indicates that they're very much interested in attracting new members.


I expect them to try to and gain members. They even go door to door to do so. But they do not try and do it in every conversation. They have a time and a place for it. Having a tight knit community may be a way of hiding secrets. That is fine, it doesn't change the fact the mormons I know are all well adjusted people who excibit great values to those around them. I can't find a problem with that.

 

Edit: I have forgotten about the door to door mormons. But even then its simply a i'm not interseted and they are on their way.


Personally, I like the Penn Gilette way of thinking.  He's an atheist... thinks believing in god is stupid.

Still... he's touched by people trying to convert him, because he realizes that what they are trying to do from their perspective is save his soul.

Which really is quite a gesture.



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EdHieron on 18 June 2012
Kasz216 said:
thranx said:
EdHieron said:
thranx said:
No. From all of the mormons i have met it seems to be the best religion. They really look after each other and have a tight knit community. None of them ever tried to convert me in any way either. And they all seemed to be well adjusted people.


Looking after each other and having a tight knit community is often a way of hiding secrets see The Branch Davidians and the FLDS.  And as the video that I posted earlier on page 2 of the forum from styxhexenhammer666 says the "And I'm a Mormon" campaign that they plaster all over youtube and on humongous billboards in major cities indicates that they're very much interested in attracting new members.


I expect them to try to and gain members. They even go door to door to do so. But they do not try and do it in every conversation. They have a time and a place for it. Having a tight knit community may be a way of hiding secrets. That is fine, it doesn't change the fact the mormons I know are all well adjusted people who excibit great values to those around them. I can't find a problem with that.

 

Edit: I have forgotten about the door to door mormons. But even then its simply a i'm not interseted and they are on their way.


Personally, I like the Penn Gilette way of thinking.  He's an atheist... thinks believing in god is stupid.

Still... he's touched by people trying to convert him, because he realizes that what they are trying to do from their perspective is save his soul.

Which really is quite a gesture.


It's better than tricking them into handing  their guns over to you and then and gunning them down in cold blood I suppose.

http://youtu.be/3k7kAbHgOyo



Runa216 on 18 June 2012

all religions are cults...some just have enough members to be considered mainstream. The beliefs inherent to christianity, islam, muslim, or practically every other major religion in the world is just as silly as the kool aid drinkers or scientology.



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Jumpin on 18 June 2012
EdHieron said:
Jumpin said:
EdHieron said:

One of the leading US Presidential candidates this year is Mitt Romney.  Romney belongs to a religion whose adherents all practically claim that they are Christians like most of the other citizens in the US; however, there is a significant portion of the population that thinks their religion is quite a bit more mysterious than that, and it has even been stated in some circles that Mormonism is actually a cult.

 

Do you think that Mormonism is a cult?

Asking if "Mormonism is a religion or a cult" is the same as asking "Is Elton John a homosexual or a fag?"

It's just plain impolite disparagement to the group to label them as a cult considering the implication of the labels these days.


Not really, one has to remember that the beliefs of religious groups tend to be on the extreme right wing and there's little ( if any ) scientific evidence to support them.  On the other hand such a question about Elton John would tend to come from someone on the far right like the Mormons which is why they supported Prop 8 and most scientific evidence would indicate that being homosexual is not an abberration of any type; however, staunchly supporting an ideology that has no basis in reality is quite an aberation.  

It's way simpler than that; nothing to do with science or politics. If you call Mormonism a cult instead of a religion, you are insulting them in the same way as you be if you were calling Elton John a fag instead of a homosexual. It's just out of pure ignorance to use either of the insulting terms.



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EdHieron on 18 June 2012
Jumpin said:
EdHieron said:
Jumpin said:
EdHieron said:

One of the leading US Presidential candidates this year is Mitt Romney.  Romney belongs to a religion whose adherents all practically claim that they are Christians like most of the other citizens in the US; however, there is a significant portion of the population that thinks their religion is quite a bit more mysterious than that, and it has even been stated in some circles that Mormonism is actually a cult.

 

Do you think that Mormonism is a cult?

Asking if "Mormonism is a religion or a cult" is the same as asking "Is Elton John a homosexual or a fag?"

It's just plain impolite disparagement to the group to label them as a cult considering the implication of the labels these days.


Not really, one has to remember that the beliefs of religious groups tend to be on the extreme right wing and there's little ( if any ) scientific evidence to support them.  On the other hand such a question about Elton John would tend to come from someone on the far right like the Mormons which is why they supported Prop 8 and most scientific evidence would indicate that being homosexual is not an abberration of any type; however, staunchly supporting an ideology that has no basis in reality is quite an aberation.  

It's way simpler than that; nothing to do with science or politics. If you call Mormonism a cult instead of a religion, you are insulting them in the same way as you be if you were calling Elton John a fag instead of a homosexual. It's just out of pure ignorance to use either of the insulting terms.

Oh, then what are you supposed to call it instead?  "A Secretive Organization That Keeps Most Of Its Teachings and History From Its Followers And That Fires Members At Its Universities That Try To Expose Its Secrets To The General Public And Its Members That Is Based on An Ideology And A View Of History That Is In No Way Based On Reality"?  I think the term "cult" sums it up pretty nicely.

http://youtu.be/9Etownp_Rmw



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Runa216 on 18 June 2012
Jumpin said:
EdHieron said:
Jumpin said:
EdHieron said:

One of the leading US Presidential candidates this year is Mitt Romney.  Romney belongs to a religion whose adherents all practically claim that they are Christians like most of the other citizens in the US; however, there is a significant portion of the population that thinks their religion is quite a bit more mysterious than that, and it has even been stated in some circles that Mormonism is actually a cult.

 

Do you think that Mormonism is a cult?

Asking if "Mormonism is a religion or a cult" is the same as asking "Is Elton John a homosexual or a fag?"

It's just plain impolite disparagement to the group to label them as a cult considering the implication of the labels these days.


Not really, one has to remember that the beliefs of religious groups tend to be on the extreme right wing and there's little ( if any ) scientific evidence to support them.  On the other hand such a question about Elton John would tend to come from someone on the far right like the Mormons which is why they supported Prop 8 and most scientific evidence would indicate that being homosexual is not an abberration of any type; however, staunchly supporting an ideology that has no basis in reality is quite an aberation.  

It's way simpler than that; nothing to do with science or politics. If you call Mormonism a cult instead of a religion, you are insulting them in the same way as you be if you were calling Elton John a fag instead of a homosexual. It's just out of pure ignorance to use either of the insulting terms.

They kind of deserve to be insulted, dude.  They follow unsupported theories and try to push it on people worldwide by harassing us at our homes, being weird and creepy, and borderline aggressive about it.  

If they can't handle the heat, get out of the fire. 

At least homosexuality is a natural thing that's been scientifically proven to be normal in a certain percentage of the population.  Calling Elton John a fag is a hate crime.  Calling a crazy religion (or any religion) a cult is pretty accurate.  



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ASStronaut on 18 June 2012
Chris Hu said:
In my book all organized religions are cults.

Exactly what I was gonna say.



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richardhutnik on 18 June 2012
Chris Hu said:
In my book all organized religions are cults.

In a general sociological sense, that is true, along with any collective philosophical school of thought, that has followers and common practices that make it unique:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cult

Now, if one wants to start saying that the negative associations with the word "cult" apllies to all major religions, that is subject to MUCH debate.



Jumpin on 18 June 2012
Runa216 said:

 Calling Elton John a fag is a hate crime.  Calling a crazy religion (or any religion) a cult is pretty accurate.  

Then you too are responsible for a hate crime. Discriminating based on religion.



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EdHieron on 18 June 2012
Jumpin said:
Runa216 said:

 Calling Elton John a fag is a hate crime.  Calling a crazy religion (or any religion) a cult is pretty accurate.  

Then you too are responsible for a hate crime. Discriminating based on religion.

Oh, so we're just supposed to give dangerous cults carte blanche on their behavior and not call them out on anything so that they should have the right to destroy our society, right?  America is supposed to be founded on the principle of freedom and the theocracy that it is the true desire of Mormons to have in America is antithetical to that.