Wii was casual from the start, it was only the suckers on here that bought it and declared it non casual over and over again listing all the great (crap) games that were good for hardcore (Conduit...hahahahaha) I remember all the Vgchartz vets taking offense...

Now look at you!!!? yeah look at you all....you've changed your tune haven't you.

Xbox 360 on the other hand was never a piece of shit casual console like the Wii until Kinect came along, so the people buying it got it chucked on afterwards, that's entirely different. If you're stupid enough to jump off a cliff knowing there's sharks below then you deserve all you get, if you were tricked into jumping off into a beautiful oasis only to find actually there were sharks there, it's a little different.

...I'm so right, so right in fact that if I'd have said what I have about the Wii here 3 years ago I'd have got a ban, now people will just agree with me.

Its interesting to note that on paper doesnt translate to real applications. Most of Moves games are dualshock 3 games. Move specific games....only 4 games have ever cracked the 70's on metacritic. 

Sports Champions, Eyepet, House of the dead 4, and Sorcery. Not exactly the stellar lineup most PS3 fans were hoping for. 

At least Kinect excels at non gaming applications and casual experiences.....and is actually successful. 

That was raw

There will always be haters.

Anyway, Move doesn't have an article, because it isn't important and successful as Kinect, so it's obvious that journalists analyze Kinect's situation.

On topic, I think that Kinect could have been used in a better way, gamewise, by Microsoft. There is no game for it that I'm interested in.

On the other hand it was incredibly successful, it helped Microsoft to stretch 360's life, and it made a lot of money.

I like it. Of course, I admit that I am a casual gamer.

I protest!!!  Do not call half-wit bloggers journalists.  There is a distinct difference.

Bloggers are hacks who think their opinion, typically devoid of fact, is correct.  A journalist presents a story from an unbiased position and let you the reader develop an opinion.

Most of what you read on the Internet these days are slanted opinions from hacks with absolutely no journalistic skill who think because they're writing on a site that somehow means their opinion is more important than fact so long as they offer enough lies and hyperbole.

Protest accepted!

But I have to say that the article in the OP isn't totally wrong, it has some good points, even though it underline negatives Kinect aspects, most of all.

The challenge for Kinect isn't the sensor at all.  It's the pipeline.  The USB 2 connection on the Xbox 360 doesn't offer enough bandwidth to push down as much data as the Kinect is capable of providing.  In the end, it means figuring out ways to get more data down a limited pipeline, which they have been doing.

This was why Microsoft removing the additional processor was BS, because even if the pre-processor was still there, the bandwidth to send the data down the pipeline was still limited.  So it wouldn't have improved anything short-term or long-term.

If you've read anything about Fable: The Journey you'd have read about how there is a negligible delay in response with this game, as compared to Star Wars Kinect.  Something, had you read the recent interview with Kudo Tsunoda, you would have known that Microsoft was working on to improve (response time).  More importantly, what this means is that when Kinect is mated with the next generation console on USB 3, it'll be able to push down higher quality data (better resolution) and because of all of the work Microsoft has done to improve the response time, still provide a high quality gaming experience if not better than the one which will be available this Autumn. 

i like kinect for some things. forza (head recognition) and skyrim as example. i believe it will be good for fifa 13 in be a pro mode (or however it is called) as well to say something like "gimme the ball arrogant cr7" or so lol. and it is really fun to play with friends before going out, on birthday parties or only if you have them in your house for a nice evening with friends.

where it lacks is for "real" deep games for people who want to play alone with it. some of the problems are known and won''t be there for kinect 2 luckily (too less power, too low res for finger recognition and so on. i believe the slow usb was one problem right?). it won't replace controls for many games next gen but i'm pretty sure it will be much much better next gen and i'm even pleased with this kinect because i did never expect to get a revolution for super hardcore games.

it's good  for fun evenings with games like kinect sports and dance central and it's great for dashboard controls and will improve there from time to time.

developers just shouldn't try to make games we played with controler for kinect. at least not for this gen kinect. people have fun with friends and kinect, use this to make games. people have fun to use kinect to improve games like skyrim or forza, use kinect for that but not to play the whole skyrim or forza with kinect.

btw seeing kinectimals in op, just to let you know you can get it for your smartphone now!

No, it's a hack job.  The blogger fails to be factual, and instead promotes his/her own agenda.

There is no balance to the article at all.  Kinect is not a miserable failure, it's first year sales were higher than the highest sales projection any analyst had prior to its release (12m).  With nearly 20 million units, Kinect is one of the most successful gaming accessories ever.  Yet, in an economy that is seeing steeply declining gaming sales, the fact that Kinect isn't duplicating its first year success is somehow a negative reflective of Kinect's abilities, not the economy.

The blogger writes about how Microsoft won't allow the hacked experiences on the Xbox 360, however completely ignores the fact that Microsoft has in fact brought many of those hacks to the Xbox 360 with the Kinect Fun Labs.  In fact, in some cases the original developers who created the hack have been working directly with Microsoft on the Fun Lab experience. 

Here is another fact for you, the only game this guy has played is Kinect Adventures.  So regardless of what other experiences are available out there, which could have demonstrated the accessories abilities, his only experience with it is Kinect Adventures.  Kinect Fun Labs, which demonstrates the creativity coming to the Xbox with Kinect that he says doesn't exit, he's never run.  Avatar Kinect, which certainly is another aspect of what Kinect can bring to the living room, he hasn't tried.

So no Child of Eden, which is considered one of the best Kinect games, nor GunStringer, nor Kinect Sports or Dance Central.  No his singular experience is Kinect Adventures, with perhaps the possibility that he's used Kinect on other Xbox LIVE experiences (video apps) or Skyrim and Mass Effect 3, but I have my doubts.

Sorry, this hack doesn't diminish my feeling that bloggers are just nit-wits who have an opinion.  For that, I say retire to the comments section and let people who know how to write, write.  That isn't to say that there aren't bloggers who are journalists, but they're likely journalists whose publications no longer exists.  Many bloggers in the gaming sphere are untrained, uneducated, half-wits, who worked themselves up from being frustrated/angry gamers taking sides in this industry and posting comments, to being the same people and doing the same thing but on a blog instead of in the comment section.