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TheFallen said:
Black Ops DLC is ~7GB. Come on Nintendo HDD's aren't expensive !

Really? I doubt even all 4 combined are that much...

Anyway the 8gigs is supposed to be used for Apps and game saves and possibly small updates.

The kind of person who would buy DLC would probably buy a large hard drive anyway. So no point in including a small 160gig HDD when most will replace it with something bigger.



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VetteDude said:
greenmedic88 said:
PlaystaionGamer said:
how Expensive are HDD's really these days for big companies like Nintendo.. COME ON!

Wont memory cards make it easier for hackers though?

what disks does the WiiU take? do you have to instal the games?

HDDs are currently the most expensive single component in any console being produced. 

While I'm not one to praise Nintendo's hardware for any other reasons than characteristic "Nintendo durability" and the company's ability to use mature, lower priced technology to create hardware that is greater than its sum of parts (at a profit), from a business perspective, going with internal flash memory standard is good business. 

NAND flash memory in low quanties is cheap. Minimum size HDDs are still pricey components. 8GB of NAND memory is well under $10. The lowest capacity HDD currently being produced costs many times more.  

As long as Nintendo allows for the use of any USB based external HDD (no mandatory proprietary specially formatted "Nintendo brand" HDDs) to expand storage for game downloads and the like, what it means is a lower standard price for the console without additional cost for budget minded consumers who in all likelihood already have a USB HDD. 

Installs will be an issue with developers though as the base 8GB internal memory essentially eliminates the practicality of mandatory installs. It will likely be the same issue developers had with the Xbox 360, and were forced to work around. 


So what? So remove the HDD and now "THE MOST EXPENSIVE PART IS THE GPU, NINTENDO SHOULD DITCH THAT!!!!" 8GB of memory is pitful, short-sighted, and I might even add arrogant. "Well if people want storage, do it themselves. We are Nintendo, screw digital distribution even though we are in dead last when it comes to online gaming" USB HDD's are slow, and a PITA. Why do I want a freaking external hard drive plugged into my console?

uh, it's not really slow, USB2 has the peak bandwidth of 480mpbs, that means about 60MB/S, usually averages at 30-50MB, which is a lot faster than optical drives. I have multiple external drives, they don't require power, you just plug them in and USB would take care of the rest, it's plug and play, takes no effort.



VetteDude said:

You're really sticking up to this? Game patches/mandatory installs on my PS3 take up over 30GB of HDD space. I have used up 150 of 250GB on my system (I have a 120GB system, upgraded to 250). That's between patches, DLC, videos, and games purchased over the store. Digital Distribution is the future! And you might complain about mandatory installs on PS3 games, but it improves loading times and IO performance incredibly. Wii U is gonna be another terrible disk thrashing system thanks to no installs. Especially now that it has to load high res textures.

Choice is king.

Option 1.

$300 console and as a casual player, I buy retail discs only, never even go to the shop channel or download a couple small games like Angry Birds. I absolutely never need more than th 8gb or if I do I am ok with erasing something or simply buying a $10 16GB card or I really get into digital distribution or DLC and apps and then go out and spend $50 for a 1TB USB HDD.

Total hardware cost $300 or $350 w/ 1TB drive.

Option 2.

$350 console with a built-in drive with 500GB (max you'll see). If I'm the casual user I wont' even use 8GB of that. If I'm a core user I'll use a lot of it, but still may need to upgrade at somepoint and may be stuck with some overpriced proprietary drive (Xbox says hi). Additionally, I have a slower base storage system that makes noise and greatly increases the chance of something breaking.

Total hardware cost $350 or more for at best 1/2 the storage.

 

I'll take option 1 any day.



Do we even know what the price of the Wii U and all its accessories are? Did I miss this announcement? I'm pretty sure Nintendo said they weren't covering price info at E3.



TheKoreanGuy said:
Do we even know what the price of the Wii U and all its accessories are? Did I miss this announcement? I'm pretty sure Nintendo said they weren't covering price info at E3.

No. You didn't miss any price related twitter feeds from them. Price is tba. 

So it has similiar storage as the original xbox. Yay!



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VGKing said:
TheFallen said:
Black Ops DLC is ~7GB. Come on Nintendo HDD's aren't expensive !

Really? I doubt even all 4 combined are that much...

Anyway the 8gigs is supposed to be used for Apps and game saves and possibly small updates.

The kind of person who would buy DLC would probably buy a large hard drive anyway. So no point in including a small 160gig HDD when most will replace it with something bigger.


No the 4 combined are over 7GB. Zombie maps take a ton of room.



8gb,,,uhh impressive?



           

superchunk said:
Some of you are crazy.

This is a perfect solution and THE best option for consumers.

MOST people won't need more than 8GB and already have quite a few SD cards laying around or would be happy with buying an $10 16GB SD card to pop in there.

Those that will want more storage are by far in the minority and will have no issues spending $50 or a large usb HDD (up to 1TB probably for that price).

This way Nintendo can keep costs low, increase the lifespan of the WiiU, reduce its size, reduce it heat/noise levels, etc etc.

I am really happy with this solution. Especially if WiiU has connectivity to my PC like my PS3 does.... then it really doesn't matter as all my large media content will simply be streamed from the PC to the WiiU. Videos take up the most space anyways.

If Nintendo doesn't make a storage solution, won't publishers be hesitant to offer DLC and digital games as a regular flow?

Isn't that what happened with the Wii?

Aside from that concern, I definitely love the sound of this. I would rather pay for the exact storage I wanted rather than have Nintendo sell me a 32gb card for 100 dollars (Hi there, Sony!).



wfz said:
superchunk said:
Some of you are crazy.

This is a perfect solution and THE best option for consumers.

MOST people won't need more than 8GB and already have quite a few SD cards laying around or would be happy with buying an $10 16GB SD card to pop in there.

Those that will want more storage are by far in the minority and will have no issues spending $50 or a large usb HDD (up to 1TB probably for that price).

This way Nintendo can keep costs low, increase the lifespan of the WiiU, reduce its size, reduce it heat/noise levels, etc etc.

I am really happy with this solution. Especially if WiiU has connectivity to my PC like my PS3 does.... then it really doesn't matter as all my large media content will simply be streamed from the PC to the WiiU. Videos take up the most space anyways.

If Nintendo doesn't make a storage solution, won't publishers be hesitant to offer DLC and digital games as a regular flow?

Isn't that what happened with the Wii?

Aside from that concern, I definitely love the sound of this. I would rather pay for the exact storage I wanted rather than have Nintendo sell me a 32gb card for 100 dollars (Hi there, Sony!).


Why would it make developers hesitant? It needs to have a nintendo brand? I remember seeing Wii branded SD cards in the beginning, but that didn't pan out (no one bought them when there were cheaper, non wii branded sd cards available). A Simple notice - Your running low on storage, you might want to consider expanding your storage or clearing up some space - followed by instructions on what to do.

Tons of portable drives and storage available.



This is a much better solution for the vast majority of buyers, based on my limited experience in video game retail. Most gamers just don't really need the hard drive space.

I'll grab a 2TB external off of newegg for like a hundred bucks one of these days, then never need anything else.