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None of you guys know what the hell you're talking about!

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Until you've played it, every game is a system seller!

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Kantor said:

And he chooses using the touchscreen, just to show that they can implement that functionality.

(On a serious note, it could work pretty well for weapons and abilities).

Yeah, it actually would. The wheel system is pretty clunky on consoles.

I just think it sucks for people who are as excited for this as spurge seems to be because either they will (a) be thrown headlong into a story they don't understand featuring a bunch of established characters they don't know, or (b) they will play Mass Effect 1 & 2 to get ready for ME3 on the Wii U only to find out that there is no way for their choices to carry over. EA should at least port ME2 as well and sell the two as a collection (haha, fat chance, I know).



gumby_trucker said:

None of you guys know what the hell you're talking about!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 ...I played the Mass Effect 2 Demo on PC                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       


Your right. I didn't know that.



I still dont get why on earth they decided to port Mass Effect 3.

Have fun playing a game where it just doesn't feel right without imports of saves.

It wont sell either. Why bother.



Cross-X said:
I still dont get why on earth they decided to port Mass Effect 3.

Have fun playing a game where it just doesn't feel right without imports of saves.

It wont sell either. Why bother.

The PS3 version of Mass Effect 2 had a similar issue, as Mass Effect 1 was a 360 exclusive.

Anyway, I can see three possible resolutions to the problem.

Resolution 1: Same as what was done for PS3 ME2 - provide a separate sequence, basically an interactive novel/comic, allowing the reader to make certain choices that then get "saved" for use in Mass Effect 3.

Resolution 2: Remake Mass Effect 1 and 2 using the Mass Effect 3 engine, and let players play the entire story. The game would probably be more expensive, this way, though. Note, however, that Mass Effect 2 for PS3 was made using the engine used for Mass Effect 3 - so it has been ported once already, simplifying the process. An alternative version of this would involve basically providing the PS3 version of Mass Effect 2, along with the interactive novel/comic that PS3 got as a substitute for ME1. This would mean that they just need to move the content from PS3 to Wii U.

Note that, since the games were made using Unreal Engine 3, it probably wouldn't be too hard to port the games over, using the same engine alterations used for ME3. They could even incorporate the various refinements made to the gameplay into ME1 and 2.

Resolution 3: Create a couple of new bits at the start of the game, wherein the sorts of choices made in ME1 and 2 are imitated, thereby producing the same outcomes within a single game experience.

Naturally, Resolution 2 is the "best" option, in that it gives people the greatest amount of content, but any of the three could work.



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Well the first Mass Effect was published by Microsoft so you'll either need to play it on the 360 or a PC. If you do that though why go back, just finish the trilogy on either of those systems.

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Now everybody can enjoy the ending


*gags*



Aielyn said:
Cross-X said:
I still dont get why on earth they decided to port Mass Effect 3.

Have fun playing a game where it just doesn't feel right without imports of saves.

It wont sell either. Why bother.

The PS3 version of Mass Effect 2 had a similar issue, as Mass Effect 1 was a 360 exclusive.

Anyway, I can see three possible resolutions to the problem.

Resolution 1: Same as what was done for PS3 ME2 - provide a separate sequence, basically an interactive novel/comic, allowing the reader to make certain choices that then get "saved" for use in Mass Effect 3.

Resolution 2: Remake Mass Effect 1 and 2 using the Mass Effect 3 engine, and let players play the entire story. The game would probably be more expensive, this way, though. Note, however, that Mass Effect 2 for PS3 was made using the engine used for Mass Effect 3 - so it has been ported once already, simplifying the process. An alternative version of this would involve basically providing the PS3 version of Mass Effect 2, along with the interactive novel/comic that PS3 got as a substitute for ME1. This would mean that they just need to move the content from PS3 to Wii U.

Note that, since the games were made using Unreal Engine 3, it probably wouldn't be too hard to port the games over, using the same engine alterations used for ME3. They could even incorporate the various refinements made to the gameplay into ME1 and 2.

Resolution 3: Create a couple of new bits at the start of the game, wherein the sorts of choices made in ME1 and 2 are imitated, thereby producing the same outcomes within a single game experience.

Naturally, Resolution 2 is the "best" option, in that it gives people the greatest amount of content, but any of the three could work.

The PS3 at least had ME2 and an interactive comic about ME1. That is 1000% better than starting fresh and new to ME3 as an entry point.

The problem with your resolutions is that ME1 cannot be ported to other consoles other than X360. Back when it was released, Microsoft published ME1 and therefore cannot port ME1 over to other consoles. Hence why ME1 wasn't on PS3.

 

The best one would be ur resolution 1 where they make a new interactive comic covering ME1 and ME2. I doubt BioWare would do that though.



Don't forget these ports are just tests for the WII U audience, and we'll get proper new games if we buy it.



“When we make some new announcement and if there is no positive initial reaction from the market, I try to think of it as a good sign because that can be interpreted as people reacting to something groundbreaking. ...if the employees were always minding themselves to do whatever the market is requiring at any moment, and if they were always focusing on something we can sell right now for the short term, it would be very limiting. We are trying to think outside the box.” - Satoru Iwata - This is why corporate multinationals will never truly understand, or risk doing, what Nintendo does.

@Cross X

From y understanding, ME1 can be released on other platforms but can't use any of the original games assets. They'd have to completely remake the game. The story, characters, etc. are EA's property but the original game code belongs to MS. EA is about money and bringing in ME1's voice cast and redoing the game would cost money. I think EA is way too cheap to go that route. One only has to look at the corners that were cut in ME3 to see that.

Edit: As for why EA would do this? Easy money. Porting a UE3 based game to WiiU isn't very costly.



Darc Requiem said:

@Cross X

From y understanding, ME1 can be released on other platforms but can't use any of the original games assets. They'd have to completely remake the game. The story, characters, etc. are EA's property but the original game code belongs to MS. EA is about money and bringing in ME1's voice cast and redoing the game would cost money. I think EA is way too cheap to go that route. One only has to look at the corners that were cut in ME3 to see that.

Edit: As for why EA would do this? Easy money. Porting a UE3 based game to WiiU isn't very costly.

then why not bring over Mass Effect 2 & 3 as a collection? That way you could include the interactive comic and it would be at least as good as the deal PS3 gamers got...



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