the first level of most halo games is very narrow and linear that introduces players to the gameplay, enemies, and weapons. I believe only halo reach had a wide open initial level. Fully expecting most of the campaign to be in huge set pieces like halo reach, especially considering 343 industries said themselves the levels will be bigger than anything we have seen in previous halo games.

Anyway the last of us obviously has the advantage due to the ps3 being more powerful, but if halo 4 ends up looking as good as the demo showed, and has the giant levels of previous halos, that will be very impressive, much more so than crysis 2 or killzone 3 for example. But I have a feeling halo 4 will not look as good as that demo, similar to how uncharted 3 looked significantly worse than its e3 demo. I hope I'm wrong but I have yet to see a console game look anywhere near as good as that halo 4 demo that has huge sprawling levels. 

don't get me wrong, uncharted 3 is currently the best looking console game period. But the e3 demo made it look like it was much, much, better looking than uncharted 2, and that just wasn't the case with the final game.

Quantic Dream said the "gameplay", if you can call it that, will be much like Heavy Rain. Meaning it will be a QTE filled choose your own adventure movie. That leaves pretty much all system resources fro graphics. If you don't think it looks creepy, good for you, but I can't stand it. I like the techonology that was first used in LA Noir, but until we have machines that can truly render photo realism I think devs shouldn't try. For example Ellen Page's character looks like Ellen Page but it doesn't look alive like Ellen Page. It looks like a lifeless thing trying to pretend to be Ellen Page. You don't get that feeling playing other games that use artistic style isntead of going for reality. Look at Star Wars 1313 or Watch Dogs. Those games look great and have both realistic and artistic people. They don't look creepy at all. Quantic Dreams should just go into live action movie making since that's what they are trying to do. Instead of rendering a "realistic" character that looks like a puppet of Ellen Page they should just hire Ellen Page and make a real movie. I think it would be better too since like Heavy Rain it's not even going to be a real game.

The Last of Us AND Beyond look infinitely better than Halo 4. 

That is all.

infinitely is a rather strong word. I think the words you are going for are they are more impressive but I'm a huge sony fanboy so...

I think the word you guys are looking for is "different". They look different than Halo 4. They all look good.

Halo 4o is big and open. Last of Us is linear and focused. Beyond is QTE choose your own adventure. They all have different things going on so they have different system resource needs. Halo has so much sandbox type stuff going on it's amazing it can look so incredible.

This thread is missing Star Wars 131 which looks absolutely incredible and better than anything I've ever seen in real time gameplay. Watch Dogs looks almost as good too.

CGI-Quality said:

"Off-topic though, so PM if you'd like to continue."

Nah, we don't have anything more to say. We disagree and that's fine.

lighting is better in halo as example. halo will have many more effects and more going on at the screen. if you don't count that as graphics, you may be right, if count all things which should be count as graphics, it is (what we saw yesterday) in my opinion very much personal preference with maybe a little advantage for last of us but not a big advantage.

Halo 4 looks good, just not up there with ps3 exclusives..

Too bad Digital Foundry still puts Uncharted 1 above most 360 block busters visually and technically.. and killzone 3 mopped the floor with crysis 2..