I'm not really sure Oyvoyvoyv's point was to say the Wii will/will not outsell the PS2. It was more of just comparing the PS2 first years sales compared to the Wii's.

Oyvoyvoyv says: The line started going way high 5 months after launch (22 weeks) that is in November 07... Is it that late?

I'm not sure what you are looking at here, so I can't really say. The PS2 was launched in Japan in March 2000, but didn't make it stateside or Europe-side until Oct and Nov, respectively. So that jump might be the PS2 being launched in those regions, not to mention the Christmas boost.

Since no one is probably reading this post anymore, I'm not sure how much it matters, but I just want to say that when you are comparing consoles sales using the Chartz -> Hardware from Launch, be sure to know the differences in release dates. For instance, the Wii was launched worldwide within a matter of a few weeks (Nov 19 for North Amercia, Dec 2 for Japan, and Dec 8 for Europe/Others), so looking at it's first 60 weeks without doing any more research is easy and ok. But when looking at PS2 sales, the first 7 months (roughly 28 weeks) are only Japan sales, so obviously it's not going to be as high as Wii sales first 7 months (which is worldwide sales). Also, differences in release dates (such as early year, late year) make a difference too. Obviously the Wii would sell better over Christmas/New Years in Japan then the PS2 would over summer (even though it didn't actually... lol, see here). I find it better to do comparisons per region, because that way you don't really have to worry about release dates as much (except for the PS3, which had an early launch in Hong Kong, so when you view Total Others data, there's like 13,000 units sold even before the release in Europe).

Overall, it's hard to directly compare any two consoles sales (first year, # weeks, first year in a region, etc) simply because release dates "artifically" raise sales at certain times, and with Christmas boost coming at different times (depending on when the console was launched), the boosts may come at different times, making one console look like it's doing better than another. See PS3 Europe launch here for an example. In that link, see where the PS3 jumps? That's the release of the PS3 in Europe, in March, which is normally a slower month. If the PS3 had launched in Europe back in Nov along with the US and Japan, that jump wouldn't be there (though the actual number of units sold would be similar).

Sorry for the long post, but I thought it was worth mentioning.

People who think Wii can't outsell the PS2 are silly, heck at the rate its going it'll probably outsell it in a few years, I say by the end of 2010. And Nintendo can always release a bunch of games to keep Wii momentum going, Nintendo has a ton of IPs it hasn't dipped into, plus the Wii franchise still has a lot of options in it, a line of Wii fit games, Wii tai chi, Wii cardio, etc.

And lets not forget that soon third parties will be getting on in force, no intelligent company is going to say no to money

Stever, sorry, I meant with Forza 2, Did it become a pack in in November 07?

Good points you made there, but if you do the math by 52 weeks, then it should be ok, right? Because then both would have all weeks in it.

Avinash, I'm not sure wheter the Wii can sell as much more than people say, but why make a game for Wii? It isn't that much better.

Call of Duty was multiplat between Ps3 and X360. It has sold 4.8M now. It would never have sold that on Wii alone.

Assassin's creed has sold 4,5 or something. In same amount of time as Super Mario Galaxy. Are you saying that it could have done that on Wii?

Guitar Hero III sold 50% more on 360 (albeit, 50 % less on Ps3)

Look at Wii's great sellers. http://vgchartz.com/worldtotals.php?name=&console=Wii&publisher=&sort=Total

The only 3rd party to sell more than 1,34M is MARIO and Sonic at the olympic games. I would say that Mario made half of these sales at least.

Re4, which was the best game of 2004 (or something, I really have no Idea about original release) sold 1,34M on Wii, I wouldn't say it is bad, it is good, but not great.

RRR, sold 1,22M. That is good for a Rayman game.

Red Steel sold 1,03M. Remember, it came out in a time with very few good Wii games. If it was released today, it wouldn't have sold that much.

 At the rate the Wii is selling it couldn't beat the PS2 by 2010 , keep in mind that the Wii would have to sell 50 Million units this year and next year in order to do that.

IMPOSSIBLE. 

My penis is huge. I think most people are ill informed of that. I just want to set the record straight.

u fail at math

it would have to sell 33 million this year, 09 and 10...there are THREE years, not 2 years between now and the end of 2010

u don't get it

why is the ps2 still selling a lot of consoles? because of its casual userbase

hardcore wanna upgrade to the latest and greatest every 5 years or so, but casuals don't do that

since the wii will have a LARGER proportion of casuals than ps2, an argument can easily be made that wii will have MORE longevity

and casuals don't care about another AAA title coming out every 3 months...they are fine with the mini-games, the puzzle games, the semi-games (nintendogs, endless ocean, etc), ....

Vagabond, thank God the record is straight. If it didn't get straighten... I don't know what I would have done. (this is to be taken in a jokingly way...)

Oyvoyvoyv: Yeah. Forza 2 I believe became a pack in with 360s at some point. Same with Marvel Ultimate Alliance. COD4 and AC probably would not have sold as well on the Wii, but we will never know.

Also, the problem with looking at the list of Wii games is that not a lot of games deserve to sell a whole bunch. M&S@O probably sells because of the Mario and Sonic thing. RE4 is a remake of a game, and has doubled the expectations of Capcom. RE:UC is selling very decently as well. Check here. A lot of games sell at least 500,000 (30 total), whereas the 360 has 60 games above 500,000. That's exactly half, in half the time. Not bad. Also, since it costs more to mae 360 games, those 30 Wii games are more "successful" (in terms of profit) than the lower parts of the 360 list (the ones that are barely above 500,000 units sold). Also, a lot of games sell better on the Wii than other consoles. WiiSports probably would be an "epic failure" on anything else.

This allows the market to expand, which is never a bad thing. Think about only having action movies or horror films, it's better with romance, westerns, etc, even if you don't like those types of movies, simply because more people are watching movies, which brings prices down, projects a favorable image of movies into the public, etc. Now that more people are playing games, it should help bring down the insane game prices (hopefully) because more people will buy them, and will (hopefully) make more people understand games, even ones they don't like (FPS, more bloody/mature games for all that WiiSport casual gamers), thus leading to a reduction in people like that attorney whose name has slipped my mind. Don't have time to look it up... classtime.

rayman raving rabbids is a great example

million-seller on wii but barely sold on ps3/360/ps2/etc

why? because it's not nearly the same game with gamepad controls

as more developers put more time into quality titles properly utilizing motion controls, those games will do much better on wii than elsewhere

some genres are practically worthless on other consoles...rayman/elebits/cooking mama/trauma center/etc would all be no fun on the other consoles

but again, wii titles cost much less to develop, even if they are made with same relative quality as a ps360 game...which means developers have to sell far fewer copies to make a profit

Raving Rabbids was only out on Wii and X360, and the graphics were just alike the Wii one on the 360, the game was meant for Wii and ported to 360, I don't think that is a great example (pardon me if I am wrong)