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Flame on 17 May 2012
VGKing said:
Flame said:
It will take a miracle to get the Vita out of this slump. Hopefully Sony can make it happen soon.

Not really. All it takes is games.

There's a few great games coming this June(at least in Japan) and E3 we should get some release dates for COD Vita and possibly Assassins Creed.

Games and a reasonable price.  Why buy a Vita when you can get a PS3 for the same price?  Speaking of games, Sony would need a recognisable IP on their console; one which made the PSP popular in Japan is now gone.  A good portion of Nintendo's IP are popular and they can easily provide the handheld with support.  No matter how awesome Gravity Rush may be, it's a brand new IP on a not-so-hot piece of hardware.

The planning of Vita's launch should have been planned and executed better.  The price was and is much too high; a lesson learned by Nintendo. Securing popular titles such as CoD, MH, etc. on launch could've given them a nice and powerful entry into the market but sadly that didn't take place.  Maybe they should have waited a year before going though with producing the hardware to be available for purchase.

Hopefully they can pull off a "miracle" because Vita really is a nice piece of tech and I'd like to see it grow and prosper.  I planned on getting one myself.



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Byclop on 17 May 2012

Vita is soooooo dead.............by now.
VGking is a Sony worker or something?



smbu2000 on 17 May 2012
krafty89 said:

Also for comedic Reasons here is U.S.A compared to Japan


   U.S.A corrected Actual Difference %
Country U.S.A Japan Japan  
Population 312.000.000 126,500,000    
Dividing Factor 0 2.47

PS3 21,276,211 8,626,412 8,170,659 -5%
X-BOX 360 34,320,837 13,915,339 1,582,479 -89%
Wii 39,328,627 15,945,339 18,958,657 19%
3DS 5,087,304 2,062,641 5,935,019 188%
Vita 548,620 222,437 682,693 207%
DS 50,720,462 20,564,546 32,949,467 60%
PSP 19,524,853 7,916,327 18,958,653 139%

Your listed Wii Japan numbers are wrong (actual). The Wii has sold just over 12 million in Japan (12,375,411 according to MC).




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VGKing on 18 May 2012
Flame said:
VGKing said:
Flame said:
It will take a miracle to get the Vita out of this slump. Hopefully Sony can make it happen soon.

Not really. All it takes is games.

There's a few great games coming this June(at least in Japan) and E3 we should get some release dates for COD Vita and possibly Assassins Creed.

Games and a reasonable price.  Why buy a Vita when you can get a PS3 for the same price?  Speaking of games, Sony would need a recognisable IP on their console; one which made the PSP popular in Japan is now gone.  A good portion of Nintendo's IP are popular and they can easily provide the handheld with support.  No matter how awesome Gravity Rush may be, it's a brand new IP on a not-so-hot piece of hardware.

The planning of Vita's launch should have been planned and executed better.  The price was and is much too high; a lesson learned by Nintendo. Securing popular titles such as CoD, MH, etc. on launch could've given them a nice and powerful entry into the market but sadly that didn't take place.  Maybe they should have waited a year before going though with producing the hardware to be available for purchase.

Hopefully they can pull off a "miracle" because Vita really is a nice piece of tech and I'd like to see it grow and prosper.  I planned on getting one myself.

The price is fine. The only reason it's not selling its because it has no games. Yes, it is the same price as a PS3, but the PS3 is 6 years old. If anything is overpriced, its the PS3. Sony does need recognizable IP, but they don't necessarily have to be exclusive. A COD, Assassins Creed, FIFA..etc made to take advantage of Vita's features is all that is really needed. If they get cross platform play with PS3 that's a reason to own both.



VGKing on 18 May 2012
Byclop said:
Vita is soooooo dead.............by now.
VGking is a Sony worker or something?


WTF are you talking about? Reported.



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Train wreck on 18 May 2012

3DS is barely keeping up with last year revenue total

May 14 2011 88.5k @ 249 = 22.0m
May 12 2012 132.1k @ 169 = 22.3m



yo_john117 on 18 May 2012
smbu2000 said:
krafty89 said:

Also for comedic Reasons here is U.S.A compared to Japan


   U.S.A corrected Actual Difference %
Country U.S.A Japan Japan  
Population 312.000.000 126,500,000    
Dividing Factor 0 2.47

PS3 21,276,211 8,626,412 8,170,659 -5%
X-BOX 360 34,320,837 13,915,339 1,582,479 -89%
Wii 39,328,627 15,945,339 18,958,657 19%
3DS 5,087,304 2,062,641 5,935,019 188%
Vita 548,620 222,437 682,693 207%
DS 50,720,462 20,564,546 32,949,467 60%
PSP 19,524,853 7,916,327 18,958,653 139%

Your listed Wii Japan numbers are wrong (actual). The Wii has sold just over 12 million in Japan (12,375,411 according to MC).

Also for a comparison like this you want to align the launches of each platform since almost everything comes out sooner in Japan.



SaviorX on 18 May 2012
Train wreck said:
3DS is barely keeping up with last year revenue total

May 14 2011 88.5k @ 249 = 22.0m
May 12 2012 132.1k @ 169 = 22.3m

Nintendo is still at square one technically, but I think they were willing to accept that in order to attain better marketshare.



Leatherhat on July 6th, 2012 3pm. Vita sales:"3 mil for COD 2 mil for AC. Maybe more. "  thehusbo on July 6th, 2012 5pm. Vita sales:"5 mil for COD 2.2 mil for AC."

Train wreck on 18 May 2012
SaviorX said:
Train wreck said:
3DS is barely keeping up with last year revenue total

May 14 2011 88.5k @ 249 = 22.0m
May 12 2012 132.1k @ 169 = 22.3m

Nintendo is still at square one technically, but I think they were willing to accept that in order to attain better marketshare.


Dont know how they can attain better than 100% marketshare they had last year.



SaviorX on 18 May 2012
Train wreck said:
SaviorX said:
Train wreck said:
3DS is barely keeping up with last year revenue total

May 14 2011 88.5k @ 249 = 22.0m
May 12 2012 132.1k @ 169 = 22.3m

Nintendo is still at square one technically, but I think they were willing to accept that in order to attain better marketshare.


Dont know how they can attain better than 100% marketshare they had last year.


You know as well as I do that that is impossible as long as Vita is around. However, with NSMB2 and a legitimate 3DS Pokemon game (even a Dragon Quest XI?), they could boost up their marketshare even more.



Leatherhat on July 6th, 2012 3pm. Vita sales:"3 mil for COD 2 mil for AC. Maybe more. "  thehusbo on July 6th, 2012 5pm. Vita sales:"5 mil for COD 2.2 mil for AC."