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Areym on 16 May 2012

I don't know man. I just don't know. They aren't that special. I'd rather not go into full rant mode, but the current fascination with Apple products is beyond me.



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Nem on 16 May 2012

I only see overpriced crap. Dont really understand it either.



sad.man.loves.vgc on 16 May 2012

Everything that could be said for the OP has been said.

I'll just add that I went to buy a new laptop (PC) for one of my relatives last week. I was shocked at how cheap-looking HP, Sony and Toshiba laptops have all become!!!!! Cheap squeaky plastic and awful screens. I wouldn't recommend them to anyone. HP built quality gets better if you are willing to pay more but that doesn't apply to Sony or Toshiba. Metalic Lenovo models all seemed solid to me though, the low and high end ones alike, except for the screens. (why doesn't manfacturers pay more attention to screens? we spend most of our time looking at the damn screens you know... ).

So yeah, to sum it up, these were my options :

1.Lenovo if I wanted something cheap with decent specs.

2. HP or a Mac if I wanted something expensive.

I ended up getting her a Lenovo.



cloud1161 on 16 May 2012
SnakeDrake said:
cloud1161 said:

I wonder this thing myself. My friend just recently got a $1500 Mac Book Pro for his birthday. Here are the specs: I7 quad core 2.5 GHz Processor, 4 Gig Ram, 500 Gig HD, and it didn't even have a discrete graphics card. Now to me, this is a major rip-off. As people have posted though, you are buying into the Apple family. In my opinion, you are mainly buying the operating system. Sure, Apple does offer way better support, there is no denying that. However, they are charging for fees that come optional for Windows buyers. For example, I recently helped my grandfather buy a new laptop because his computer was ancient (I mean 2001 AMD Athlon 2.5 GHz single core ancient). Now the laptop itself was an HP with a 2.2 AMD Dual-Core processor (forget the model) with 4 Gigs ram and 600 Gig storage and Windows 7 Basic all for $380. Now, there is an optional 200 fee for a 3 year warranty (which he didn't get because the only thing he uses it for is to check e-mail and stocks). This is where Apple sneaks fees on you. They charge you automatically for that warranty, so to people less informed it seems like a great deal. Apple products themselves are better quality, but I don't think the $1100 difference is justifiable, even with the better processor and OS and warranty. Second to last thing I want to say, I read Steve Jobs biography and one of the biggest things he sought that I do not agree with is end-to-end control. He did not want his customers adding or customizing his product. Anyone else who read it knows that his close friend Steve Wozniak was the exact opposite as I am. I believe when you buy a product, you should be able to add/customize whatever you wish to it, I mean after all you bought it. It's similar to buying a car and knowing how to change the tires and have all the right tools to do so, but still being forced to send it to the mechanic to do so. Lastly, I just want to say I am not an Apple hater. Steve Jobs did a great thing with the company. I just disagree with the high prices and the end-to-end control. Now let the fanboys rip me a new one!

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superchunk on 16 May 2012
okr said:

I bought my 20'' iMac more than 5 years ago. Looks like this:

I can't speak about other Apple products as this is the only Apple product I ever bought, but my "late 2006" (Apple term) iMac is by far the most reliable and most silent computer I ever owned (very important for my buying decision as I hate computer noise). If it ever breaks I'll most probably buy another iMac. I wouldn't be surprised though if it lasts one year or even a few years longer. iMacs may not be very popular these days, especially compared to other Apple products, but they are still my most favorite product line from that company.

So my answer is: quality & reliability.


I have two windows PCs I built myself.

First (first custom build ever) cost me $800 and built it in 2000.

In 2010 it finally broke and I spent $125 on a new low end MOBO/CPU/GPU combo and it now runs Win7 like a champ. Probably get another 10 years without issue.

In 2008 I wanted to replace above computer for my personal tasks and leave that one as a general user computer. I spent another $800 on another custom build. This one is detailed in my profile. It has worked without issue so far.

Apple is not better quality or more reliable in a general sense so long as you spend your time and buy the right product. Buy from crap company, get crap product. Buy from good company get good product... or just build your own (actually really easy) and win-win.

btw, those prices include new monitors and windows software.



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Zohan on 16 May 2012

its teh magical logo



mike_intellivision on 16 May 2012
WiiBox3 said:

I got bad news for you Mike. Windows8 won't support Flash out of the box, nor will it support DVD or BlueRay.

 


Look for business to avoid it like they did Vista and ME then.

After all, this is the every other version of Windows.

The big users/orders will force Microsoft to continue to support 7 -- just like what happened with XP.

Or Microsoft will have to come up with plug-ins rather quickly before people will adopt.

(Personally, I think the tiled approach will not go over well with business.)

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Gilgamesh on 16 May 2012
sad.man.loves.vgc said:

Everything that could be said for the OP has been said.

I'll just add that I went to buy a new laptop (PC) for one of my relatives last week. I was shocked at how cheap-looking HP, Sony and Toshiba laptops have all become!!!!! Cheap squeaky plastic and awful screens. I wouldn't recommend them to anyone. HP built quality gets better if you are willing to pay more but that doesn't apply to Sony or Toshiba. Metalic Lenovo models all seemed solid to me though, the low and high end ones alike, except for the screens. (why doesn't manfacturers pay more attention to screens? we spend most of our time looking at the damn screens you know... ).

So yeah, to sum it up, these were my options :

1.Lenovo if I wanted something cheap with decent specs.

2. HP or a Mac if I wanted something expensive.

I ended up getting her a Lenovo.

Should of checked out Asus



Gilmour on 16 May 2012

Apple products are overpriced. Pricy products = quality.

Therefore, Apple is quality.

That's what they say... But the truth is that their products suck.



labrats5 on 16 May 2012

Because they are fantastic tools.

Almost all the developers I know use macs. It is far more usable than linux and isn't hopelessly crippled like windows.
You get a terminal with a real bash shell and unix commands and a built in vi editor, a document-based windowing system with tool widgets that keep absolute position on your screen, great hardware and software stability, no junkware, and easy upkeep. Go to any developer conference in the country (other than a platform specific one, obviously); Go to rubicon, go to a maker's faire, whatever. You will see 2/3rds macs, easily. They aren't hipsters for the sake of being hip. They like making things and want good tools to help them. I don't see what other reasons you need.