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Gay rights only surface in dying societies. America has a birthrate below replacement, less children than parents. That is why immigration is so high now. The American family is fatally ill. You know, a 50 percent divorce rate, abortion, pornography. That is the state of the American family. Gay marriage is never an issue when the family is considered the lnucleus of society. What is happening in America is happening in all the godless European societies too. It is not happening in societies that are strictly religious, like Muslims, devote Jews and Christians; only Godless secular societies. America is dying, not with a bang, but a whimper. |
Except... that's not true.
The US has a 13.83 births/1,000 Crude Birth rate.
Compaired to a
8.38 deaths/1,000 population Death rate.
US still has a baby surplus.
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Except you don't know what you're talking about. The fertility rate for Whites is 1.6 which means that there are 16 children for 20 adults, which means that Whites are a dying people in America. That is why the population of Hispanics and Muslims is increasing through immigration. They are replacing they dying White population. This is happening in every secular state, Europe, North America, even secular Jews in Israel are dying out. Blessed are the meek for they shall inherit the earth (replacing the Godless secular societies).
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How the hell does "White = American".
If a hispanic or muslim family has been here 4-5 generations that doesn't count as "american" to you?
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So that’s your informed answer. In 1980 White people made up 80 percent of the population of America. Now they are at 50%. The cause of the trend has not changed. Whites will continue to decline. Did you know that a country is named by its population? The name America came from an Italian. There are forces at work to become bi-lingual. It is all part of a rapidly dying country.
I guess that’s okay with you if you like genocide. Isn’t that what the Nazi’s did to the Jews in Germany, reduced the population of Jews. So what percentage is okay with you 5, 25, 0? Please tell us? Would you care so little if it was a population of dolphins, or any other race?
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America is Italian.
Yet when America first started there were almost no Italins in America. The population mostly consisting of Germans and English. So.... come again?
Aso, genocide...? Like... i'm just going to assume your not serious here... that you consider it Genocide that white people are smart enough to not want children because children are a pain in the ass.
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Genocide is what it is called when an entire people are wiped off the face of the earth. I don't expect you to understand such simple definitions.
Children are the future of a society. No children no future. Death. The end. I guess we know what your recommendation is, extinction!
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http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/genocide
http://www.merriam-webster.com/medical/genocide
gen·o·cide
noun
the deliberate and systematic extermination of a national, racial, political, or cultural group.
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Destroying the family = destroying a societies ability to reproduce = the deliberate and systematic extermination of a national, racial, political, or cultural group.
There is an insecticide that attacks the reproduction system. Eliminate the children and before long the population goes away. Same thing. Eliminate the traditional child bearing role of the family in society and it will disappear, replaced by immigration.
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Except... nobody is deliberately stopping people from having kids.
Look up the words deliberate and systematic.
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Except, if you deliberately introduce changes to the concept of a marrage which invariably cause the fertility rate to decline, then you are controlling the fertility rate. What you seem to be saying that if a group of people took charge of a society and removed the police force, then they would not be responsible for the chaos that followed. If there is a direct causal relationship then there is responsibility. I would have to agree with you if there was no causal relationship. People would be responsible for there own actions. But in this case secular families always have less than sustainable birth rates. That is true in America, Israel, and all of Europe: France, England, etc. So I will have to disagree with you. If you advocate for secualr families then you advocate for below replacement birth rates. The inexorable result of which is a declining population. BTW. the extinction rate is about 1/2 percent per year. So in about 200 years the indigenous population of Western society will be wiped off the face of the planet.
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How does changing marriage to allow gay marriage lower fertility rates?
Fertility rates drop due to economic reasons making children no longer useful or needed economically.
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Separation of church and state, abortion, **** no fault divorce - produces a family structure with 50 percent divorce rate. This is an historic high. Never in American history has half of all families broken up. It is no wonder that the family can not reproduce itself.
So what do these social customs have to do with gay marriage you ask? All these policies are necessary to get to a state in society to be possible for gay's to ask for marriage. Gays could never ask for marriage when societal morality is controlled by the church. In the past America censored pornography and divorce was considered an evil. These were teachings from the church. So gays and secularists had to strip away the power of the church systematically. They were successful and implemented the policies I mentioned above. I am sure that you have heard gays argue that straight marriages often end in divorce so why shouldn't they be allowed to marry. If society believed that heterosexual marriage was fundamental to their well being it would be hard for gays to ask for marriage. So easy divorce was a policy the suited the goals of the gay community.
I would like to clarify one point. I do not believe it is not the gays that are primarily responsible for the dying state of the American White family. Gays make up only about 4 percent of the population. I think the responsibility rest more with the secularists who are using the these policies to remove religious values in society, and the religious people that are too stupid to understand how society works and isolate themselves from the rest of the world.
There is no level of income which causes a below replacement fertility rate. It does not matter how much a Muslim, or Hasidic Jew makes, they have more than two childer per two adults. Fertility has to do with how a family is organized. It can be based on religious text which produce living families, or based on secular beliefs that will drive a people to extinction.
